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		<title>By: Designer Vaginas? this is not for the faint of heart Virginity matters most in marriage? &#171; Suara Keadilan Malaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Designer Vaginas? this is not for the faint of heart Virginity matters most in marriage? &#171; Suara Keadilan Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s generally vaginaplasty. According to the Atlantic, the Guardian and other sources, the popularity of The Barbie, like that of Brazilian waxing, is almost certainly entirely derived [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DESIGNER VAGINAS? THIS IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART VIRGINITY MATTERS MOST IN MARRIAGE? &#171; engage Malaysia Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>DESIGNER VAGINAS? THIS IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART VIRGINITY MATTERS MOST IN MARRIAGE? &#171; engage Malaysia Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] labiaplasty, it’s generally vaginaplasty. According to the Atlantic, the Guardian and other sources, the popularity of The Barbie, like that of Brazilian waxing, is almost certainly entirely derived [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh hellz naw!! I only gone and got my dang comment deleted, why do I have to go and run my gums so much!!! Anywho, ya&#039;ll know I&#039;m right.



You can&#039;t be generalizing based on gender, each man is different to the next, we&#039;re not all clones of one another. I hate all this &quot;Menz iz evil! Dat guy &lt;em&gt;Pat Riarchy&lt;/em&gt; iz keepin&#039; me down!!!&quot; As a young man, I&#039;m not taking any blame for this &quot;porn culture&quot; because I didn&#039;t ever contribute to it, I&#039;m not bearing any of the burden. I&#039;m not interested in porn and I&#039;m not running about telling women how to look. I&#039;m just doin&#039; ma own thang!! So if any women want me to feel bad for having a Y chromosome...I suppose you can just go and eat my trouser biscuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh hellz naw!! I only gone and got my dang comment deleted, why do I have to go and run my gums so much!!! Anywho, ya&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m right.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t be generalizing based on gender, each man is different to the next, we&#8217;re not all clones of one another. I hate all this &#8220;Menz iz evil! Dat guy <em>Pat Riarchy</em> iz keepin&#8217; me down!!!&#8221; As a young man, I&#8217;m not taking any blame for this &#8220;porn culture&#8221; because I didn&#8217;t ever contribute to it, I&#8217;m not bearing any of the burden. I&#8217;m not interested in porn and I&#8217;m not running about telling women how to look. I&#8217;m just doin&#8217; ma own thang!! So if any women want me to feel bad for having a Y chromosome&#8230;I suppose you can just go and eat my trouser biscuits.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-59937</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry; I did some belated cleaning up. Clearly I need to monitor this particular thread more carefully than usual.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-59927</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was acting like a troll so most people wrote her off.  Some hints:



* 4 posts in a row talking to herself



* calling people who disagree with her &quot;brainwashed sluts&quot;



* calling 50% of the world &quot;vile, evil and horrible&quot;



* random capitalization



* less-than-reasonable suggestions for solving the problem like &quot;Go cut your d**s off, animals&quot;



 



If her problem is that guys are behaving poorly, screaming insults at her is only going to confirm her beliefs and make guys look a little worse.  And no matter what the debate, telling someone to &quot;go die&quot; will always make you look like an irrational dofus.



And lets be real here - men are more violent in general (eg: the US Bureau of Stats say 10-20% of women will be raped in their lifetime and 99% of rapists are men).  By even hinting at violence you don&#039;t just look like a dofus, you look scary and threatening which is not appropriate, even to trolls.



You apologized which give you a lot of credit, far more than our troll friend did.  I think people can read what she said and see that you were provoked and spoke in haste, no harm done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was acting like a troll so most people wrote her off.  Some hints:</p>
<p>* 4 posts in a row talking to herself</p>
<p>* calling people who disagree with her &#8220;brainwashed sluts&#8221;</p>
<p>* calling 50% of the world &#8220;vile, evil and horrible&#8221;</p>
<p>* random capitalization</p>
<p>* less-than-reasonable suggestions for solving the problem like &#8220;Go cut your d**s off, animals&#8221;</p>
<p>If her problem is that guys are behaving poorly, screaming insults at her is only going to confirm her beliefs and make guys look a little worse.  And no matter what the debate, telling someone to &#8220;go die&#8221; will always make you look like an irrational dofus.</p>
<p>And lets be real here &#8211; men are more violent in general (eg: the US Bureau of Stats say 10-20% of women will be raped in their lifetime and 99% of rapists are men).  By even hinting at violence you don&#8217;t just look like a dofus, you look scary and threatening which is not appropriate, even to trolls.</p>
<p>You apologized which give you a lot of credit, far more than our troll friend did.  I think people can read what she said and see that you were provoked and spoke in haste, no harm done.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay okay Tyro. Yeah, I went a bit off topic there, sorry. But you know what I&#039;m saying right? Listen to this idiot. These misandrists get me all hot under the collar and shit, forgive me, I&#039;m still a kid. I haven&#039;t had the internet for long and I&#039;m coming across these fuckin&#039; fruitcakes and they&#039;re blowin&#039; me little mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay okay Tyro. Yeah, I went a bit off topic there, sorry. But you know what I&#8217;m saying right? Listen to this idiot. These misandrists get me all hot under the collar and shit, forgive me, I&#8217;m still a kid. I haven&#8217;t had the internet for long and I&#8217;m coming across these fuckin&#8217; fruitcakes and they&#8217;re blowin&#8217; me little mind.</p>
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		<title>By: zaniell</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-58388</link>
		<dc:creator>zaniell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for saying it: Stepford Slut.



THANK YOU for this article.



I was born in Soviet Union and I remember hordes of people worshipping eternally alive Lenin, Communism and being sure of how we will burn United States to the ground. I had seen it go and come under destruction.



It doesn&#039;t surprise me that you see people worshipping porn, misogyny, and doing nonsense like waxing, being brainwashed by media, etc, etc. I had seen it all and I had seen it go. Something tells me I will see THIS will go to.



This reign of porn--it is Roman empire (Western world) burning down. US will be facing major economic crisis soon... In China (thanks god) porn is illegal.



It will be gone. Our civilization comes in cycles and what you see now is a shadow of decomposing and rotting Roman Empire. Morals are low everywhere in the West.



Don&#039;t worry about it, this will come to pass too. :]]



I see absolute lack of morale, values among the youngest US generation (it spread onto my former country as well). This is a consequence of economic affluence, but this affluence is not likely to last here.



Btw, every physician knows that waxing is extremely unhealthy and causes recurrent infections.



Well, tomorrow they might start telling people to cut their left ear off to be hawt... :] should we even bother about it? Fools makes their own choses.



Now, sorry got to run, need to inject my Testosterone cypionate... so much to porn.



 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for saying it: Stepford Slut.</p>
<p>THANK YOU for this article.</p>
<p>I was born in Soviet Union and I remember hordes of people worshipping eternally alive Lenin, Communism and being sure of how we will burn United States to the ground. I had seen it go and come under destruction.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that you see people worshipping porn, misogyny, and doing nonsense like waxing, being brainwashed by media, etc, etc. I had seen it all and I had seen it go. Something tells me I will see THIS will go to.</p>
<p>This reign of porn&#8211;it is Roman empire (Western world) burning down. US will be facing major economic crisis soon&#8230; In China (thanks god) porn is illegal.</p>
<p>It will be gone. Our civilization comes in cycles and what you see now is a shadow of decomposing and rotting Roman Empire. Morals are low everywhere in the West.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about it, this will come to pass too. :]]</p>
<p>I see absolute lack of morale, values among the youngest US generation (it spread onto my former country as well). This is a consequence of economic affluence, but this affluence is not likely to last here.</p>
<p>Btw, every physician knows that waxing is extremely unhealthy and causes recurrent infections.</p>
<p>Well, tomorrow they might start telling people to cut their left ear off to be hawt&#8230; :] should we even bother about it? Fools makes their own choses.</p>
<p>Now, sorry got to run, need to inject my Testosterone cypionate&#8230; so much to porn.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-57588</link>
		<dc:creator>Ophelia Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yay! Carrie shames Miranda for something or other about her pubic hair but not necessarily for not stripping it all off with hot wax. Oh well that&#039;s totally healthy then!! It&#039;s great to have movies where women police the &quot;grooming&quot; of each other&#039;s genitalia.



Jeezis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yay! Carrie shames Miranda for something or other about her pubic hair but not necessarily for not stripping it all off with hot wax. Oh well that&#8217;s totally healthy then!! It&#8217;s great to have movies where women police the &#8220;grooming&#8221; of each other&#8217;s genitalia.</p>
<p>Jeezis.</p>
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		<title>By: Ossicle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ossicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies -- &quot;ad hominem.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Ossicle</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-57586</link>
		<dc:creator>Ossicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from any end-credit touting a writer as &quot;internationally acclaimed,&quot; this post can be completely disregarded as a polemic by two things:  First, she writes that genital waxing became popular in porn &quot;not least because it makes the women look pre-pubescent.&quot;  She has, and cannot offer because there is none, any evidence whatsoever for this completely ad hominum claim.  Second, in the &lt;em&gt;Sex and the City&lt;/em&gt; movie, Carrie doesn&#039;t shame Miranda for not getting a Brazilian wax.  Her exact meaning is ambiguous ,  but she&#039;s shaming her either for not getting a bikini wax or for not keeping herself trimmed/groomed.  That&#039;s a very different thing.



This post is merely a fulminating polemic.  I&#039;m always unnerved when I realize people like this are allowed to speak to impressionable young minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from any end-credit touting a writer as &#8220;internationally acclaimed,&#8221; this post can be completely disregarded as a polemic by two things:  First, she writes that genital waxing became popular in porn &#8220;not least because it makes the women look pre-pubescent.&#8221;  She has, and cannot offer because there is none, any evidence whatsoever for this completely ad hominum claim.  Second, in the <em>Sex and the City</em> movie, Carrie doesn&#8217;t shame Miranda for not getting a Brazilian wax.  Her exact meaning is ambiguous ,  but she&#8217;s shaming her either for not getting a bikini wax or for not keeping herself trimmed/groomed.  That&#8217;s a very different thing.</p>
<p>This post is merely a fulminating polemic.  I&#8217;m always unnerved when I realize people like this are allowed to speak to impressionable young minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Smythers</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-57537</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Smythers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many assumptions, so much ideology, so little evidence.



The women I know who shave/wax (friends, my partner and and all of her four sisters) do it because &lt;em&gt;they want to&lt;/em&gt; and because &lt;em&gt;they like it.&lt;/em&gt; These are strong, mature, independent women in their forties. The suggestion that they are doing it because their partners want them to would be greeted by astonished laughter. My partner watches porn &lt;em&gt;because she enjoys it.&lt;/em&gt; I shave (scrotum only) because I like it and my partner likes it. It makes me feel sexy. I don&#039;t need any more reasons.



Why is this writer unable to accept that many (the vast majority, in my experience) women are in complete control of their own bodies and their own sexuality?



Why is there never any response to the damning objections that: a) Many women watch porn, and b) many &lt;strong&gt;gay men&lt;/strong&gt; watch porn. How is it that these people - the millions of women and gay men who watch porn - are somehow contributing or participating in the objectification and oppression of women?



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many assumptions, so much ideology, so little evidence.</p>
<p>The women I know who shave/wax (friends, my partner and and all of her four sisters) do it because <em>they want to</em> and because <em>they like it.</em> These are strong, mature, independent women in their forties. The suggestion that they are doing it because their partners want them to would be greeted by astonished laughter. My partner watches porn <em>because she enjoys it.</em> I shave (scrotum only) because I like it and my partner likes it. It makes me feel sexy. I don&#8217;t need any more reasons.</p>
<p>Why is this writer unable to accept that many (the vast majority, in my experience) women are in complete control of their own bodies and their own sexuality?</p>
<p>Why is there never any response to the damning objections that: a) Many women watch porn, and b) many <strong>gay men</strong> watch porn. How is it that these people &#8211; the millions of women and gay men who watch porn &#8211; are somehow contributing or participating in the objectification and oppression of women?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Gorton</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-57525</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Gorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I wonder if any of the commenters above would say that this sounds just fine, and that they don’t mind that their daughters will be expected to submit to this by the young men currently being ‘educated’ by the internet?&lt;/em&gt;



One could equally well say the last Die Hard movie was socialising boys into driving cars into helicopters. The plural of anecdote is not data, and we have no data to support Dines&#039; assertions, just her steady stream of anecdote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I wonder if any of the commenters above would say that this sounds just fine, and that they don’t mind that their daughters will be expected to submit to this by the young men currently being ‘educated’ by the internet?</em></p>
<p>One could equally well say the last Die Hard movie was socialising boys into driving cars into helicopters. The plural of anecdote is not data, and we have no data to support Dines&#8217; assertions, just her steady stream of anecdote.</p>
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		<title>By: aficionado</title>
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		<dc:creator>aficionado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a father of two daughters 8 &amp; 11. Therefore I am deeply concerned about these issues.



Simultaneously I am a man; I happen to watch porn. My preferred source is an amateur site where couples of all ages (let me clarify: 20-60 years) submit videos of themselves.



It seems to me that due to the internet, the prevalence of camcorders, web cams and mobile phones, porn has come in to everyday life to a hugely greater extent than 20 years ago.



The availability of these images, especially to developing males, causes a feedback loop whereby what was once considered unusual (to whatever degree) becomes expected.



Therefore, at the less extreme end, men expect women to have trimmed/waxed/shaved pussies. (Does anybody mind that word? I think it&#039;s the most appreciative.)



The next step has been the normalisation of anal sex. This, I would contend, a significant number of women enjoy. However plenty others do not, and find that it has become expected of them.



Further steps that have already come to pass include the expectation on the part of men that women should be prepared to be photographed or photograph themselves in the knowledge that the majority of such images will become public (if you&#039;re lucky anonymously).



I could discuss each of these in more detail. However the problems are as follows:



1. The primary beneficiary of these changes is the male; the woman I would suggest loses more than she gains.



2. These things are now mainstream. On balance each is a step in the wrong direction.



3. The major problem is that once the extreme has become usual you then need a new extreme. Therefore expect to see more of the following: gagging, ass to mouth, group sex, bukake (multiple men ejaculating on a woman&#039;s face).



Gagging is an excellent example of the misogynistic effect of the porn industry. It involves the male inserting his penis fully into the woman&#039;s mouth and leaving it there until she chokes.



I wonder if any of the commenters above would say that this sounds just fine, and that they don&#039;t mind that their daughters will be expected to submit to this by the young men currently being &#039;educated&#039; by the internet?



[On the subject of male shaving, I believe it began in the porn industry because it increases the apparent size of a man&#039;s penis. However, I doubt that there are men out their who have undergone this for their women because they felt pressured into doing so. cf brazilian]



 



 



 



 



 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a father of two daughters 8 &amp; 11. Therefore I am deeply concerned about these issues.</p>
<p>Simultaneously I am a man; I happen to watch porn. My preferred source is an amateur site where couples of all ages (let me clarify: 20-60 years) submit videos of themselves.</p>
<p>It seems to me that due to the internet, the prevalence of camcorders, web cams and mobile phones, porn has come in to everyday life to a hugely greater extent than 20 years ago.</p>
<p>The availability of these images, especially to developing males, causes a feedback loop whereby what was once considered unusual (to whatever degree) becomes expected.</p>
<p>Therefore, at the less extreme end, men expect women to have trimmed/waxed/shaved pussies. (Does anybody mind that word? I think it&#8217;s the most appreciative.)</p>
<p>The next step has been the normalisation of anal sex. This, I would contend, a significant number of women enjoy. However plenty others do not, and find that it has become expected of them.</p>
<p>Further steps that have already come to pass include the expectation on the part of men that women should be prepared to be photographed or photograph themselves in the knowledge that the majority of such images will become public (if you&#8217;re lucky anonymously).</p>
<p>I could discuss each of these in more detail. However the problems are as follows:</p>
<p>1. The primary beneficiary of these changes is the male; the woman I would suggest loses more than she gains.</p>
<p>2. These things are now mainstream. On balance each is a step in the wrong direction.</p>
<p>3. The major problem is that once the extreme has become usual you then need a new extreme. Therefore expect to see more of the following: gagging, ass to mouth, group sex, bukake (multiple men ejaculating on a woman&#8217;s face).</p>
<p>Gagging is an excellent example of the misogynistic effect of the porn industry. It involves the male inserting his penis fully into the woman&#8217;s mouth and leaving it there until she chokes.</p>
<p>I wonder if any of the commenters above would say that this sounds just fine, and that they don&#8217;t mind that their daughters will be expected to submit to this by the young men currently being &#8216;educated&#8217; by the internet?</p>
<p>[On the subject of male shaving, I believe it began in the porn industry because it increases the apparent size of a man's penis. However, I doubt that there are men out their who have undergone this for their women because they felt pressured into doing so. cf brazilian]</p>
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		<title>By: pulseteresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>pulseteresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynn,



Where is the evidence that:



1) There is a quantifiable  &quot;trans trend affecting young women,&quot;  and



2) That &quot;&#039;plastic&#039; porn culture&quot; is the cause?



If you have no evidence (real evidence, not anecdotes), then your statement is simply a meaningless, baseless assertion.



Pez,



I&#039;m not exactly sure what is behind the removal of pubic hair by both men and women in porn, but I&#039;d guess that hygiene and concern over STD&#039;s have something to do with it. And in the case of men, it also makes their penises appear larger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn,</p>
<p>Where is the evidence that:</p>
<p>1) There is a quantifiable  &#8220;trans trend affecting young women,&#8221;  and</p>
<p>2) That &#8220;&#8216;plastic&#8217; porn culture&#8221; is the cause?</p>
<p>If you have no evidence (real evidence, not anecdotes), then your statement is simply a meaningless, baseless assertion.</p>
<p>Pez,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure what is behind the removal of pubic hair by both men and women in porn, but I&#8217;d guess that hygiene and concern over STD&#8217;s have something to do with it. And in the case of men, it also makes their penises appear larger.</p>
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		<title>By: lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-57023</link>
		<dc:creator>lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pez,



It means men have the power of male privilege that whether they are covered in hair or not, fat, bald, have huge breast and balls down to their knee caps doesnt affect their sense of self, agency or potency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pez,</p>
<p>It means men have the power of male privilege that whether they are covered in hair or not, fat, bald, have huge breast and balls down to their knee caps doesnt affect their sense of self, agency or potency.</p>
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		<title>By: lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-57022</link>
		<dc:creator>lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This plastic &quot;porn&quot; culture has also lead to the current trans trends now affecting young women. Girls who are choosing transition in order to escape their limited female role by becoming &quot;men&quot;.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This plastic &#8220;porn&#8221; culture has also lead to the current trans trends now affecting young women. Girls who are choosing transition in order to escape their limited female role by becoming &#8220;men&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: PEZ</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-56954</link>
		<dc:creator>PEZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 15:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it mean then that the men in the pornagraphy also remove their pubic hair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it mean then that the men in the pornagraphy also remove their pubic hair?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirth Gersen</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-56767</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirth Gersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, it&#039;s other women who expect women (and, increasingly, men as well) to be hairless. To be brutally frank, most men typically couldn&#039;t care less one way or the other, as long as there&#039;s sex involved. When my wife jumped on the bandwagon and I asked why, she said because all her girlfriends told her it&#039;s &quot;more hip,&quot; and that I didn&#039;t have a say in it anyway (which is true). I nodded, and replied that it should be OK for me to leave the hair on my chest, in that case. Cosmopolitan and Sex in the City are not porn trickle-down -- they&#039;re perfect examples of the &quot;with it&quot; girls telling the &quot;less-popular&quot; girls what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, it&#8217;s other women who expect women (and, increasingly, men as well) to be hairless. To be brutally frank, most men typically couldn&#8217;t care less one way or the other, as long as there&#8217;s sex involved. When my wife jumped on the bandwagon and I asked why, she said because all her girlfriends told her it&#8217;s &#8220;more hip,&#8221; and that I didn&#8217;t have a say in it anyway (which is true). I nodded, and replied that it should be OK for me to leave the hair on my chest, in that case. Cosmopolitan and Sex in the City are not porn trickle-down &#8212; they&#8217;re perfect examples of the &#8220;with it&#8221; girls telling the &#8220;less-popular&#8221; girls what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: D.B.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.B.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t stand the argument that a woman who shaves her pubes looks pre-pubescent, and that is why guys like it.  It makes as much sense as saying a man who shaves his face looks pre-pubescent, and women who like that must like young boys.  An adult woman (or man) with a shaved body looks nothing like a child.



Shaving for cosmetic or cleanliness reasons has also existed as far back as history has existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t stand the argument that a woman who shaves her pubes looks pre-pubescent, and that is why guys like it.  It makes as much sense as saying a man who shaves his face looks pre-pubescent, and women who like that must like young boys.  An adult woman (or man) with a shaved body looks nothing like a child.</p>
<p>Shaving for cosmetic or cleanliness reasons has also existed as far back as history has existed.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2010/visible-or-invisible-growing-up-female-in-a-porn-culture/#comment-56334</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;



One student told the group how her boyfriend bought her a waxing kit for  Valentine’s Day, while yet another sent out an email to his friends  joking about his girlfriend’s “hairy beaver.” No, she did not break up  with him, she got waxed instead.



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How terrible! To think, that young man would never have treated his girlfriend poorly, had not been for that awful porn.



Women hooking up with jerks must have been invented in the 1970&#039;s as a direct result of the porn industry.  Thank you Dr. Dines!



 



 



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<p>How terrible! To think, that young man would never have treated his girlfriend poorly, had not been for that awful porn.</p>
<p>Women hooking up with jerks must have been invented in the 1970&#8242;s as a direct result of the porn industry.  Thank you Dr. Dines!</p>
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