If there’s no clear line between science and philosophy, why are we supposed to get so excited about a science of morality? No one ever said there couldn’t be a philosophy of morality.
Month: April 2011
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In some tiny corner of the cosmos
I wanted to say a few words about the pope’s Easter chat yesterday but I had too many words to say about too many other things so I didn’t get to it. Others have said a few words about it now, but I’ve only glanced over them so far because I wanted to say whatever it was that formed in my head when I first heard (in translation, on the BBC World Service) the salient passage, first. See? I know it’s old news; I’m late; but there was something I wanted to say.
It starts with the usual thing about the Logos. In the beginning was the. You know.
The creation account tells us, then, that the world is a product of creative Reason. Hence it tells us that, far from there being an absence of reason and freedom at the origin of all things, the source of everything is creative Reason, love, and freedom.
No it doesn’t. It’s some words in a book. It purports to tell us something, but it doesn’t actually tell us in the sense the pope means. It’s some writing. I can say “In the beginning was the Ice Cream”; that doesn’t make it true; no more does the gospel of John make what it says true. It sure as hell doesn’t make it true that the source of everything is creative Reason, love, and freedom.
Here we are faced with the ultimate alternative that is at stake in the dispute between faith and unbelief: are irrationality, lack of freedom and pure chance the origin of everything, or are reason, freedom and love at the origin of being? Does the primacy belong to unreason or to reason? This is what everything hinges upon in the final analysis.
The pope’s god has nothing to do with freedom, and damn little to do with reason or love. Again it’s just words – just logoi. Words are good but they’re not magic. Popes treat them as if they were magic. That’s their trade, I suppose.
As believers we answer, with the creation account and with John, that in the beginning is reason. In the beginning is freedom. Hence it is good to be a human person. It is not the case that in the expanding universe, at a late stage, in some tiny corner of the cosmos, there evolved randomly some species of living being capable of reasoning and of trying to find rationality within creation, or to bring rationality into it.
Yes it is. And that itself is an extraordinary and inspiring fact. The pope doesn’t know what he’s missing.
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Blackford on Coyne’s open letter
Cooperating with the NCSE in court proceedings does not mean that you have to endorse their wider position out of court.
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Kenan Malik on the poetry of an Old Atheist
That of Abul Ala Al-Ma’arri (c. 973-1058), whose poetry was renowned for his unflinching religious skepticism.
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Cardinal to everyone: more power for us please
Outraged privilege squalls again. Outraged privilege wants even more privilege please, and no grumbling.
The leader of the Catholic Church in Scotland, Cardinal Keith O’Brien, has used his Easter message to attack “aggressive secularism”…Cardinal O’Brien said the enemies of Christianity wanted to “take God from the public sphere”.
Whereas the cardinal and his all-male gang want to fill up the public square with their imagined god who endorses all their nasty encrusted hatreds and panics and secret bum-gropings. Well of course they do: that way they would have even more power than they already have. If they had enough power they could even shut up the journalists and bloggers and survivors who keep talking about all that child-rape and child-slavery.
The Cardinal said: “Perhaps more than ever before there is that ‘aggressive secularism’ and there are those who would indeed try to destroy our Christian heritage and culture and take God from the public square. Religion must not be taken from the public square. Recently, various Christians in our society were marginalised and prevented from acting in accordance with their beliefs because they were not willing to publicly endorse a particular lifestyle.”
Yes yes yes, they were “prevented” from throwing gays out of hotels and yanking their adopted children away on the vicious grounds that “they were not willing to publicly endorse a particular lifestyle.” Right – consensual relationships between adults evil, child-rape by priests a little rude perhaps but nothing to fret about.
Dr Evan Harris, a campaigner for the separation of Church and state, branded the Cardinal’s remarks “paranoid and unjustified”.
He said: “It is not ‘aggressive’ to call for an end to religious privilege in society and many people of faith agree with the call for the state to be neutral in religious matters.”
Andrew Copson also retorted.
He said: “What these attacks ignore is that campaigners for secularism in our public life are overwhelmingly motivated, not by anti-religious prejudice, but by a positive desire for equality and an equitable public sphere.
“These alarmist speeches, designed to stir up the faithful and foster a false narrative of persecution, are divisive and sectarian.”
Such attacks “obscured” the reality of the situation, he said. “The churches are seeking to defend a level of influence and privilege totally out of proportion to their significance,” Copson added.
Damn right.
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Scottish cardinal demands more theocracy
Priest in expensive goldy hat complains that Christians are being marginalized.
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Scotland: Catholic cardinal attacks secularism
Enemies of Christianity, robust, traditionalist, teaching, resist, equality legislation, homosexual, in accordance with their beliefs, power, right, Christ prayed for.
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1 for me, 1 for you, 1 for 6.7 billion people
I’m still faintly surprised by some of the reactions to Sam Harris’s book, and to the criticisms of it, so I re-read some this morning. I didn’t slap my brow and say “gosh it’s way better than I thought.” Nope.
Consider, for instance, p 199 n. 11.
…many people assume that an emphasis on human “well-being” would lead us to do terrible things like reinstate slavery…Such expectations are the result of not thinking about these issues seriously. There are rather clear reasons not to do these things – all of which relate to the immensity of suffering that such actions would cause and the possibilities of deeper happiness that they would foreclose.
That’s a terrible “argument” – it’s not an argument at all. It’s one of the many many places where he simply doesn’t make an argument, perhaps because he expects us to supply all the missing bits ourselves.
It is not self-evident that slavery would increase suffering overall – it is self-evident only that it would increase suffering for the slaves. Harris doesn’t even manage to say that much – and if he can’t manage that, what can he manage?
His defenders seem to think all that kind of thing is obvious. It isn’t.
Slavery doesn’t exist because people think “Aha, if some people were slaves, then everyone would be happier.” It exists because people think “If some people were slaves then we would be happier.” Harris’s note simply jumps right over that. He does that all the time, and that’s why the book is so irritating.
Take a look at pp 40-1, where he belatedly admits that “genuine ethical difficulties arise when we ask questions” about what’s good for other people as well as for me. He clears up that little difficulty as briskly as if it were a bit of lint on a sweater. Consider Adam and Eve. Surely they could have figured out how to maximize their well-being. There could be lots of ways to thrive, and ways not to, but they can do it
and the differences between luxuriating on a peak of well-being and languishing in a valley of internecine horror will translate into facts that can be scientifically understood. Why would the difference between right and wrong answers suddenly disappear once we add 6.7 billion people to this experiment?
Seriously. That’s what he said. I’m not making it up. Look for yourself.
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Martin Amis on Christopher Hitchens
One of the most terrifying rhetoricians that the world has yet seen.
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Nick Cohen on Fred Halliday’s Open Democracy essays
The intellectuals he admired were clear-sighted secularists who had freed themselves from the myths of their communities and traditions.
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Oh yes you did, oh no I didn’t
Curious incidents on the Open Letter to the NCSE and BCSE thread at Jerry Coyne’s. 428 comments at present and counting. A guy called Roger Stanyard, who works for the BCSE and has lately been telling Jerry and co. to stop dissing religion because, tried to explain about how the UK is different from the US. This was entirely beside the point, as several people tried to explain in return, but Stanyard doesn’t listen good.
Those of us that run the BCSE have no mandate or freedom whatsover to back New Atheism. A goodly number of our members are religious, or indifferent to religion or are uncomfortable with New Atheism.
If we limited membership to New Atheists we wouldn’t have any activists.
Ya…that’s super super interesting, but it’s not relevant, because oddly enough Jerry’s open letter doesn’t say “Dear BCSE please back New Atheism and please limit your membership to New Atheists.” What it says is: you keep heaping invective on New Atheists and tarring people like Richard Dawkins with opprobrium, and you’re losing allies as a result.
I for one tried to clear things up for Stanyard, more than once. I also tried to pin down the essence of his confusion.
What Roger Stanyard, and other accommodationists, seem to be saying is “because we at the N/BCSE have to avoid criticizing religion, therefore we want all scientists and friends of science also to avoid criticizing religion.”
This is not reasonable. That “therefore” makes no sense. It’s like asking that nobody who votes Democratic in preference to voting Republican ever criticize any Democrat.
His cogent and civil reply began
When are you going to get it into your thick skull that the United Kingdom is not the United States.
Nobody here gives a stuff about Democrats and Republicans or your culture wars.
The BCSE has no option but to take a radically different position from you.
Yes, thank you…Meanwhile and a good deal more significantly, he also attributed a surprising statement to Richard Dawkins; Dawkins turned up and asked him to substantiate it since he (RD) did not remember saying such a thing and found it highly unlikely; Stanyard said he got it from Larry Moran; Jerry asked Larry Moran; Larry Moran said Nope, I don’t remember saying that, I remember telling you not to bash atheists…and Stanyard demanded apologies all around. Go figure.
That’s not even all of it. It’s high-class ructions, I tell you what.
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The pope’s easter homily
If man were merely a random product of evolution in some place on the margins of the universe, then his life would make no sense. Therefore…
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Patricia Churchland’s science of morality
Massimo Pigliucci notes that Churchland is adamant in pointing out that the neural platform for morality is only the platform.
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Jason Rosenhouse on out atheists and atheophobia
Will Gervais writes: four studies found converging evidence that perceived atheist prevalence reduces anti-atheist prejudice.
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Roe v Wade is the law, but it isn’t
What we’re witnessing is a stealth campaign to make an abortion illegal or as difficult to obtain as possible in as many states as possible, and it’s working.
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Priorities
A priest named Roy Bourgeois publicly supports the ordination of women, and participated in the ordination of his friend Janice Sevre-Duszynska, for which the Vatican promptly excommunicated him. Then he went to a film festival that showed a movie on the subject, so the Maryknolls are kicking him out and plan to ask the Vatican to laicize him, i.e. take away his priesthood forever.
This swift and unequivocal action has never been the response of these same church leaders to the rape, sodomizing, sexual torture and torment of children — from infancy through adolescence — by thousands of male Catholic clergy worldwide.
It’s always interesting to see what the Vatican considers important and what it doesn’t.
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A priest rapes children? No jam for tea
A priest supports the ordination of women? Kick that guy out of the church.
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Texas governor Perry is all hat and no cattle
He hates that pesky federal gummint, but he has sought federal disaster aid and federal assistance in fighting the fires.
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Mark your calendars
Anthony Grayling is going to be on The Colbert Report on Tuesday to talk about The Good Book.
That’s hitting the jackpot when it comes to promoting a book. It’s also likely to be pretty good fun in itself – like going on tv to have a chat with Alan Bennett, or Jonathan Miller, or John Cleese, or Michael Palin. I would be quite happy to do any of those things, or all four of them, and I would also be quite happy to go on tv to chat with Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert.
By all accounts, Colbert is a very nice guy. I’ve met someone who once worked for the Report – she had gone from that job to being an admin at CFI. Julian and I were having dinner with her about the fourth day we were there, and she told us she’d worked for Colbert. Julian was a bit startled when I exclaimed “You worked for Colbert?” I had to try to explain to him the significance of Colbert. Anyway – she said he’s a truly nice guy, and very considerate of the employees.
Hey up for philosophy for the people, eh? A philosopher does Colbert; not bad!
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Todd Gitlin on what happened at Synthese
Gitlin is appalled to learn that the tender sensibilities of ID supporters have been permitted to deform scholarly circles.
