Medical definition of
And another one.
We can say what men are in 5 words but women are a whole different story, so different that they can be women while also being men, i.e. the sex that produces spermatozoa.
Updating to add: it’s still there.
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Thus proving to women who believe themselves to be ‘trans’ that the ‘trans’ movement only uses their existence as yet another a stick to beat women with. They don’t really believe that women can be men, however much testosterone they poison themselves with, and however much horrifically mutilating surgery they have inflicted upon them.
I wonder if the brainiacs who wrote that wibbly-wobbly pile of wordthings considered that the two definitions they give are not exclusive. All TIMs still fit in the first category.
tigger_the_wing #1
I strongly suspect that the main reasons TIFs get any attention at all are:
1. To keep up a minimal appearance of consistency and even-handedness, deflecting charges of double standards etc.
2. To serve as an alibi: It’s a much easier sell to frame self-ID as standing up for nonthreatening girls in distress than as forcing women to allow aggressive, entitled, porn-crazed male autogynephiles into their spaces without any screening or gate-keeping functions what so ever.
TIFs need to be an important part of Trans Rights because they are a rapidly growing demographic and therefore an increasingly significant source of support. Transmen often spread the ideology enthusiastically while joining organizations. Because they now outnumber TIMs, they’re more visible and make the need for new laws seem more urgent.
It’s a double-edged sword, however. When the local high school has 20 girls identifying as boys or “non-binary” in the space of two years, it starts looking less like a needy cause and more like something that doesn’t seem quite right.
Bjarte, I noticed that when PZ would argue about trans bathroom rights, he put up pictures of a TiF, with a beard, looking nothing like a female. For all I knew, it could just be a picture of a random man. See? Not a problem. Would you deny this person the right to use the men’s room? Of course not!
No, that person would likely not be denied use of the men’s room, because when they walked in, everyone would think they were male. And if they didn’t use the urinal, that doesn’t necessarily give them away.
He couldn’t put up pictures of Rhys Rachel Veronica McKinnon Ivy because that gives the game away. I don’t know if he did it consciously, or if it was because of cognitive dissonance (since only a couple of years before he was saying listen to the women, they know if it’s sexism – I didn’t agree fully with that, either, since women don’t agree on everything). All I know is I realized about that time that the debate was not an honest one. When the horde turned on Ophelia, that was it. I peaked.
This is so infuriating.
#5 iknklast
I noticed exactly the same thing on PZ’s blog, this time from a commenter in that idiotic Meb post.
Yeah no shit no one was worried about that, it was a woman challenging a man, not the other way around. A woman decided to challenge herself by going up the difficulty gradient called sexual dimorphism. There cannot be any possibility that they do not know the difference given how often we point it out, so I see no other possibility besides intellectual dishonesty.
Curiously, the commenter neglects to mention who won that bout. Given that she would have been trumpeting the woman’s win from the rooftops had she won – “so much for sexual dimorphism!” sort of thing – I conclude that the woman lost. But just to check, I googled “latvia woman vs man boxing” (latvia because the commenter stated the female boxer was latvian) and found this match, which might be the one being referenced if only for the fact that it was the only one featuring a latvian woman versus a man in a boxing match.
And… the woman was losing gradually from the outset. There was no knockout, but the man was throwing more punches, landing more punches, dodging more punches, and was simply more active than the woman for the entire fight. Which is precisely why feminists don’t really give a shit about women challenging a man.
And yes I am quite convinced that had the female boxer won, Andreas would suddenly and miraculously remember that the sporting fairness arguments all stem from sexual dimorphism. See above regarding intellectual dishonesty.
If you scroll down from that elaborate definition of female you get to a section headed “health screening tests every woman needs”. Which starts with breast cancer and cervical cancer, and then goes through a top-of-someone’s head list of diseases people can get right down to “look after your teeth.
No such thing on the medical definition of male.