Close reading
I wonder what he means by this bit:
Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace
What’s the logic? How is that not a non sequitur? Not to mention based on a false premise?
It wasn’t Norway that “decided” not to give him a prize, it was the Nobel committee. Except it didn’t have to “decide” anything because it never considered him for the prize. Ok I don’t actually know that for a fact, but why would it? Why of all people in the world to elevate as a force for peace would anyone pick out Donald Trump? He’s been trying to get people killed ever since the Central Park Five got his condign attention. He loves violence. He’s had a lot of people murdered over the past year, and been the origin of more deaths, such as that of Renee Good. His whole attitude to life and people is the antitheses of peaceable or peace-promoting. He’s angry, he’s a bully, he’s rude, he’s mean, he’s competitive, he cheats, he’s ruthless. He’s not a peacemaker.
That’s just one of the speed bumps in that particular road.
I think he’s saying that he was, in fact, interested in making piece, but purely for the purpose of winning the prize. If he can’t have the prize, then — oh ha ha, look at that, I misspelled “peace” as “piece”. Quite appropriate. Lapsus Freudianus.
Well, technically I think they had to consider him, because he was after all nominated. I forget by whom. I’d be extremely surprised if they considered him seriously, though.
(Not a peacemaker? Look, dead people are quite peaceful. What more do you want?)
“I don’t want war! All I want is peace! Peace! Peace! A little piece of Poland, a little piece of France…”
(From Mel Brooks’ To Be Or Not To Be, 1983.)
From the movie The Suicide Squad
What “8 plus wars” has DJT ended?
Ukraine? Sudan? Myanmar? Gaza?
How about the conflicts that DJT has started? And the war crimes he is responsible for?
Such a man of peace!
Harald, I didn’t realize (or had forgotten) that he was nominated. I wonder what damn fool did that.
Nobel, Norway, Denmark… these piddling little countries & institutions run by LIBTARDS & COMMUNISTS, and OF COURSE it’s the Norwegian government that’s in charge of the Nobel Prize Committee, just like I’m in charge of the DONALD J. RUMP John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Arts and anything else in the world I want to lay my sticky little fingers on. I love PEACE – look at the PRESENTS I’ve gotten from FIFA and from Machado (though she’s not getting ANYTHING back from RUMP – she’s not respected, least of all by me, and the more people grovel before me the more I like it and the less I respect them). They’re GOLD and they look very good on the RESOLUTE DESK and on the wall in the OVAL OFFICE. I think I’ll stick them in the Donald J. Trump BALLOON, sorry BALLROOM, when that gets built. I’m working on that. But I don’t like PEACE when I don’t get what I want. I call it PISS instead of PEACE. So I’ll get what I want the HARD WAY (not hard for me, though!), and all those EFFETE (Stephen Miller’s just suggested this word, it’s a very odd word, I’d never heard of it before) Europeans who steal from U.S. can go f*** themselves.) Thank you for your attention. Donald J. Rump.
Ah, Netanyahu is one of those damn fools. There are several others, including some Americans (Claudia Tenney, Darrell Issa?). The committee does not publish the names of the nominees or those who nominated them, but the latter may of course reveal it, and several have done so.
Of course they have; how can Trump reward them if they don’t go public?
@ Tim Harris #7
“Stephen Miller’s just suggested this word, it’s a very odd word,
I’d nevernobody has ever heard of it before.FIFY
DJT never admits that he was ignorant of something. It’s always everyone else who didn’t know it (even though almost everyone, other than himself, already knew whatever piece of common knowledge he’s been suddenly introduced to.
He does actually say that – “Nobody knew this.” Makes me flinch every time.
Thanks, maddog! That’s better!
maddog1129 #5
Don’t forget:
• The civil wars he ended in Los Angeles, Portland, Chicago, Minneapolis etc.
• The wars that would inevitably have happened if Trump hadn’t stepped in and stopped them in advance (Sweden vs. Togo etc.).
• The exceptionally bloody armed conflicts that, thanks to DJT, no longer count as “wars” (as opposed to “special military operations” etc.).
• The war with Albania over the suitcase bomb incident.
• The war with Canada over the Terrance and Phillip affair.
• That war he once ended in a dream.
That brings us up to at least 9, so technically “8 plus”…
Many have marveled at how the Christian Right could throw their support behind anyone as obviously depraved and impious as Trump. On second thought it sort of makes sense.
I have often commented on how none of the great villains of popular fiction really work as analogies for Trump: You need the main villain of the piece to be – in some sense – a “worthy opponent” of the hero(ine), and there is nothing even remotely worthy – in any sense – about Trump. The closest fictional analogy (personality-wise) to Trump I am able to think of is actually the Biblical God (DJT: “Some guy in Norway just called me God-like!”). Come to think of it, it’s pretty much a perfect fit: The insatiable need to be flattered, worshiped, crawled for, and slavishly obeyed, the narcissistic rage whenever someone fails to engage in the required level of self-abasement, the greed, the shamelessness, the boastfulness, the pettiness, the childishness, the vindictiveness, the spitefulness, the cruelty, the sadism, the total lack of any redeeming features what so ever etc. etc. And I haven’t even gotten to the bad parts yet!
One recurring theme of the Bible is God “saving” people from his own wrath – by not taking his insatiable bloodthirst out on them (for now!). By that same twisted logic, I guess you could say that any war Trump hasn’t started yet is a war he “ended” or at least “prevented”.
But on the other hand the Anglophone world has the King James translation to deal with, which makes a great gulf between Trump and Mister God. The KJ version makes Mister God seem very eloquent indeed.
It occurs to me that another pretty good candidate is King Lear. The insatiable need to be flattered, worshiped, crawled for, and slavishly obeyed, and the narcissistic rage whenever someone fails to engage in the required level of self-abasement, are exactly the qualities that set him on the path to destruction in the first scene of the first act. He issues a trumpish demand for flattery, Goneril and Regan oblige him to the point of nausea, Cordelia refuses, and bam, we’re off to the races.
That is code for “Someone just told me this”.
At least Lear was at one point a good king and father (as Cordelia’s devotion to him shows).
I guess if you combine all the worst aspects of Lear, Coriolanus, Timon, Henry VI, maybe a few others, without any Shakespearean depth, you’d get something approaching Trump.
And Kent’s devotion, and the Fool’s. On the other hand “He hath ever but slenderly known himself” – but it’s Regan (or Goneril) who says that – but then again evil people can spot the evil in other people – and so the ambiguities flourish.
In about 1985 my parents bought a house called Prior’s Peace. They didn’t like that name, so they renamed it as Prior’s Piece. I didn’t think that was much of an improvement, though it wasn’t totally without logic as it was built on some land that had been part of the estate of a neighbouring priory.
That’s quite a widespread thing in the UK I think? There’s one in Oxford if I remember correctly.