In the shoes of others
While awaiting developments in the impeachment process, I stumble over (sigh) Tim Minchin being a jackass.
I’m excited that so many people are so interested in the @OldVicTheatre at the moment! I look forward to hearing more about what you think of their amazing shows, fantastic community outreach programs, training & scholarships, and the wonderful work they’ve done over the…
… last 2 years to fund-raise for & carry out a complex renovation to make this historic 200 yr old building accessible for those who don’t do stairs 😊❤️. The Old Vic is not tax-payer funded, but does amazing work, carried out by passionate people who think very carefully..
… about the art they generate, the environment they create, and their role in increasing diversity in theatre. You might well have a sensible view to express regarding the signage on their new loos, but I do hope you will also take the time to drop in and experience the…
… gorgeous new foyer, bars and – yes – lavatories, and say hi to some of the wonderful, hard-working, caring team there. Most importantly, I hope you purchase a ticket & watch a show! Theatre is to my mind the form of storytelling that most profoundly, most immediately…
… and most viscerally helps place me in the shoes of others. Some of y’all could do with a dose, I reckon. Righto. Long live the @oldvictheatre. I’ll go back to obsessively checking my privilege now. It’s probably fallen down the back of my massive fucking velvet sofa. xx
By “the shoes of others” he of course doesn’t mean the shoes of women who don’t want to walk past a row of men at urinals or use an all-genders set of cubicles.
Several people tried to set him straight, and he somehow got himself to this point:
They were mostly raising money for accessibility. They also said they’d increase the number of toilets for women. I am open to the criticism they failed. But this I‘m pretty sure of: neither you (nor Perez/Ditum et al) really give a fig about the theatre, its patrons, or its loos
I retorted to that one, but more to the point so did Caroline:
Excuse me? First off, it’s Criado Perez, try to get names right even if they’re foreign please. Second, on what basis are you making that assertion? The fact that I go to the theatre regularly? The fact that I’ve done a whole lot of research on women’s access to toilets?
Here’s my unevidenced assertion right back: you know absolutely nothing about the research on women’s access to toilets, but since you’re a man you still think your opinion is more important than those of people who know what they’re talking about.
There’s a lot of that about.
Willing to bet my exposure to theatre is at least as great as that of Tim Minchin. I attended three theatrical productions this last weekend alone…that’s a fairly normal weekend for me, at least this time of year when there is a lot on offer.
Attending theatre does not make me lose my grip on reality. It does not make me less aware of the needs of women (though I will admit that being one means I would certainly have a different view of that than the lads do). It does not make me think the most important thing in the world is to cater to men who think they are women and want to bathroom with vulnerable women who might be scared to use the public facilities if there are men in there with them.
He seems to have deleted all those tweets.
So are the two bathroom types 1. all-cubicle and 2. cubicle/urinal mix? If so, I expect almost everyone will reject this nonsense and treat #1 as women’s bathrooms and #2 as men’s. At least I hope so.
(Some of the wording seems to suggest that the types are 1. all-cubicle and 2. all urinal. If that’s the case, then they are crazy.)
To be clear, I think they’re crazy either way. Just less crazy with the first.
…Said the man to the women trying to explain their point of view to him.
I do wish some woman playwright would do a play about this.
Waiting (in the queue) for Godot
Leak a bit in Anger
(please someone come up with some play puns)
Happy to oblige…
A Midsummer Night’s Stream
Lady Windermere’s Fanny
The Taming of the Loo
The Iceman Goeth
The Importance of Peeing Earnest
Six Characters In Search of a Potty
(My apologies, this is what passes for fun in my brain).
@Papito – brilliant. I wish I’d said that.
The Deep Blue Pee
Pump and Circumstance
Privy Lives
Privies on Parade
Richard the Turd
King and Queen John
(my inspiration is starting to flow)
KB Player:
If that’s a request, I already have. But there is no theatre anywhere that is ever likely to produce it until everyone reaches peak trans. By then, it’s merely historically interesting, so they still likely won’t produce it.
No one is more woke than the theatre community.
@iknklast
Indeed, about the wokeness of the theatrical community, and the excruciating interpretations of Shakespeare I’ve seen which are about Brexit or the Gulf War or whatever.
KBPlayer, I have sat through so many of those I am tempted never to go to Shakespeare again. But I saw a wonderful production of MacBeth this weekend that was about…MacBeth. People can draw their own conclusions, but the play’s the thing.
It never ceases to amaze me how generally skeptical (or sceptical for you Brits, I suppose) people can be so unskeptical about anything cloaked in the moral rectitude of LGBTQIZ&%$#@バカ.
Nullius, I think your acronym has caught the chaos of the currently burgeoning movement perfectly. It has something for everyone.
Maybe women need to start posting photos of piss-covered seats and floors that women are expected to use at the Vic.
#12
Something for everyone, but less for women.
@iknlast – I have seen plenty of good Shakespeare. Even those with some annoying interpretations will have some good sections, skilled acting and the like.
The Royal Shakespeare Company and the National Theatre do cinema broadcasts of their plays, and I have seen some excellent productions.
The last Macbeth I saw they had cut half the witches’ speeches (no bubble bubble toil and trouble, an outrage) and had them climbing up pylons.
KB Player – that may have been the same production I had seen – I was outraged by the cutting of the witches roles. And I do see some good Shakespeare, but not much. Perhaps it has to do with where you live. I did see a good production of Comedy of Errors recently, even though they had cut it to 75 minutes and modernized it. It is one of the few that I’ve seen where the cuts were good and not just crossing off half the words.
On the other hand, I have recently seen a butchered Julius Caesar, a Tempest where they changed the ending and cut out Prospero’s last speech, and a Hamlet set in a Catholic girl’s school. Not to mention the old west Merry Wives of Windsor. All of those I could have done without.
@Nullius #11. Did you intend to type バカ at the end of your acronym? Baka being Japanese for “fool”, for those that don’t know. :D