Grammar School

I find this article very interesting, in a slightly queasy and guilty way. Queasy and guilty for a few reasons – one of which is that I’m not very keen to agree with Roger Scruton about anything. But then I promptly feel queasy about that thought, too, because it’s the basic principle of B and W that facts (and where possible ideas and opinions) should be judged on their merits rather than by association or ideological affiliation. That is to say, I’m almost obliged to acknowledge that a conservative isn’t automatically wrong about everything. But then will I end up agreeing with Rush Limbaugh about something? Oh please no –

Well, we all know the feeling, I suppose. Our Shanghai correspondent David Stanway said much the same thing in his blog on Monday (scroll down to August 4).

Reading another of Mark Steyn’s masterpieces in The Spectator , I am forced to admit that the idealism of youth is no longer an option, particularly in West Africa. I am also forced to admit the ineluctable truth that one becomes more right-wing as one gets older. Ten years ago, I wouldn’t even have looked at The Spectator.

Just so. Mind you, I usually manage to tell myself that I’m not becoming more right-wing, I’m just becoming more skeptical or observant or wised-up or nuanced or some such flattering spin. Then again other times I can’t help thinking I’m simply becoming more misanthropic and choleric and short-fused and scornful. But those are good things to be!

Ah well, never mind. I know there are some limits. I’ll never admire George Bush or Ronald Reagan, I’ll never rejoice over tax cuts for the rich, I’ll never join Scruton in getting dewey-eyed about fox hunting, I’ll never, ever become a god-botherer. That will have to do for now.

But another reason I feel a bit torn about the Scruton article is that I always feel torn about this subject – the competing goods of egalitarianism and meritocracy in education (and elsewhere). I would like everyone to have an education like the one Scruton got at High Wycombe Royal Grammar School. Yes and I would also like pigs to have wings and the land to flow with milk and honey. Even if societies were willing and able to spend the money that would take, there wouldn’t be enough brilliant teachers to make that possible. So…I’m just stuck with feeling torn, as always. Such is life, I’m told.

Comments

6 responses to “Grammar School”

  1. ER Avatar

    I’m not an egalitarian, but I still have serious reservations about the kind of education Scruton describes. ‘Strict discipline’; ‘spartan regime’; ‘corporal punishment’; ‘improving forms of torture’ – it sounds even worse than my own grammar school education. I think that learning should be pleasurable – but then I’m not a Christian and I don’t believe suffering is good for the soul.

  2. PM Avatar

    How do Scruton’s conclusions about the need for ‘competition’ and grammar schools follow from the body of his text?

    Has anyone ever done a study to see whether the combined results of grammar schools + secondary moderns (the euphemistic ‘comprehensives’) are better than mixed ability schools (the actual ‘comprehensives’)?

  3. OB Avatar

    Ah well, true, I did rather gloss over the torture chamber aspect of Scruton’s piece. I was more struck by other aspects (confirmation bias strikes again). But on the other hand – I think learning should be pleasurable when possible, but it’s not always possible. I think I’ve mentioned this a time or two in N&Cs…I was very much of the ‘learning should be what I enjoy’ school of thought when I was in school, and the result is I simply ignored a lot of subjects that didn’t already interest me. American schools are all too willing to ‘reach the students where they are’ and so on, so if the students yawn at the mention of Shakespeare (let alone chemistry or physics) why, then, we’ll read Steinbeck instead, not to say Stephen King.

    PM, surely people have done such studies…I would think. Surely there are whole warehouses full of white papers and books on the subject, no?

    I’m not saying Scruton’s conclusions necessarily follow though. It was more of an anecdote than an argument, really.

  4. PM Avatar

    You’d think, but I’ve only ever heard people compare grammar schools with non-selective comprehensive schools – which makes me smell a rat.

  5. Roger Gill Avatar

    How can a selective school be comprehensive?

  6. JS Avatar

    Roger

    Some comprehensive schools in the UK have selective streams. But the streaming doesn’t occur in all subjects, so they end up as a mixture of selection and comprehensiveness.