It’s interesting to know there is such a thing as ‘Quiverfull families.’
Quiverfull families tend to believe in male headship – the principle, also derived from the Bible, that men should lead households. Feminists are perhaps the fiercest critics of the budding Quiverfull movement. They accuse it of trying to undo the equality and freedom won for women over decades of struggle, and claim that the idea of automatic male leadership is anachronistic. But Robert Sanford sees his approach to family life both as authentically Christian, and as the best training for children to take on what he sees as the moral decay afflicting American society.
Here’s what I want to know: what is that ‘But’ doing there? Feminists think (or ‘claim’) that the idea of automatic male leadership is anachronistic
but Mr Quiver thinks it’s authentically Christian? How are those two incompatible or disjointed in any way? They’re not. That ‘But’ should be ‘And.’ Feminists see reactionary ‘Christian’ patriarchy as anachronistic and oppressive and unjust, and reactionary Christians see reactionary ‘Christian’ patriarchy as a good thing. That’s clear enough, I should think.
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But Robert Sanford sees his approach to family life both as authentically Christian, and as the best training for children to take on what he sees as the moral decay afflicting American society.
What would Jesus say?
Luke 14:26 (New International Version)
26″If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.
“moral decay afflicting American society” is anything the numb nuts don’t agree with. They are mental midgets.
Apparently “feminist” really just means any marginally normal person.
Two interesting sites to look at on this interesting subject are http://quiverfullfamily.com/ (love the girls in the bedroom frocks), and
http://nolongerquivering.com/ …written by an escapee.
Clearly the donations at his church are very healthy…it’d take something like 5 times my income to support all those ‘holy warriors’.
It’s astonishing how quickly permutations of Christian fundametalism develop, flourish in potty little enclaves, and then die out again. Jesus actually left very little hope for families, seeing them generally as impediments on the Way (the original name for the Jesus people). Families simply clog up the spirit and weigh it down with worldly cares (as Andy Gilmour points out). After all, we’re supposed to be out there blossoming in the sun, like flowers. Is that what Sullivan means when he says that the Christianity of the gospels shine like the sun?
Mags – my blood is running cold from reading the No Longer Quivering site. I’m a believer. God hates women. I am on my knees.
I have been enlightened however to find this handy recipe for a quick nutritious dessert treat. Mothers (and older sisters) of huge litters, oops, families led by patriarchal mutants can whip this up to keep their families’ neurons running on fumes:
Layered Ice Cream Cake
24 ice cream sandwiches
8 oz. Cool Whip(tm)
1 Hershey’s(tm) chocolate syrup bottle
1 Smuckers(tm) caramel syrup bottle
2 king-size Butterfinger(tm) candy bars chopped up
1st layer: 12 ice cream sandwiches
2nd: half of whipped cream
3rd: half of Butterfinger(tm) bars, Squeeze 1/2 of caramel & chocolate over that.
4th: rest of ice cream sandwiches
5th: Cool Whip(tm)
6th: rest of Butterfinger(tm), caramel & chocolate. Yummy! Yummy!
Note to non-Duggars: For all recipes, divide all quantities by 9.
(for non US consumers: coolwhip=fake whipped cream, butterfingers=candybars w/something orange-colored dipped in chocolate)
Check out the details and find other delicious home-cookin’ here: http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2005/10/24/sixteen_kids/index.html
Non US consumers know all about cool *hwip* (yes, I spelled that right) thanks to Stewie Griffin :)
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I’m a glutton for sweet stuff but that –
ewwwwww
gag retch puke
Tea – thanks for the x-cultural info. I was afraid we (US and Mexico) were the only ones who knew about C–l H–p.
It’s funny that I lived in the US for 6 years, but I first heard of coolhwip (in that Family Guy episode, obviously) right after returning back to Slovenia. I guess it’s because I’m just not a fun of any kind of whipped cream – cool or not; I prefer chocolate. :)
Kathryn Joyce, an ex-quiverfull adherent, is the author of Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement. One of the more disturbing connections is to the true woman manifesto.
Claire, just reading that recipe made three of my teeth fall out.
This movement is really scary and an excellent illustration of both religious privilege and male privilege. If people raised children in this way (i.e. taught to accept abuse, burdened w/lots of childcare) for non-religious reasons, and if some of those children were boys, they would never get away with it.
The “But” in the sentence you single out, OB, implies that saying “it’s Christian” is some kind of a logical refutation of criticism. Which it isn’t.
I have a fantastic (& non-patriarchally-authoritarian) cookie recipe I’ve promised to stick on my blog tonight, if anyone’s interested:
http://www.andyhgilmour.blogspot.com
should be done & cooled & ready to serve in a couple of hours :-)
guaranteed free of all supernatural ingredients
:-)