Same.

Just listened to this and found it quite uncomfortable listening.

Because it felt like @BBCNuala was challenging @KateBMwriting to justify the existence of lesbians. By pushing her to say men couldn’t be lesbians – then saying some people might find that view offensive.

So I re-listened to the recent Robin Moira White interview (trans identifying man + barrister) to compare. But there were no questions that offered a similar level of ‘challenge’. Like: –

What do you mean when you use the word woman?

– What would you say to people who say trans women are men – and that you can’t actually change sex?

– Some would argue that your beliefs are offensive to women – in fact many have – what would you say to that?

There was no challenge to Robin around identity versus biology at all. Yet Kate was subjected to the most idiotic questioning e.g. why she might want to exclude men from her dating pool as a lesbian.

In fact @BBCNuala even went on to clarify that Robin’s pronouns were she/her (after Kate had used ‘he’ and explained her reasoning).

And this is ‘Woman’s Hour’. Just extraordinary.

And enraging.

The Beeb should at the very least change the name to Trans Hour.