+ rights
Again with the forced-team-labeling.
There are no LGBTQ+ rights. There are universal human rights, and then there are lesbian and gay rights. I don’t know of any specific to trans people rights that don’t negate the rights of other people, mostly lesbians. The specific to trans people purported rights are not rights, they’re grabs and intrusions and sulks.

The notion that a person should have a right based on his subjective, non-falsifiable sense of identity is just insane. (Make that his self-declared subjective, non-falsifiable sense of identity.) Since when do rights work like that?
Remember all that “invasive sex testing” that used to take place before trans rights became a thing?
Yeah, me neither. How did we ever know the difference?
What a Maroon, I remember the gender police who would check your genitals before you were allowed in the women’s room.
Wait, no. That never actually happened. Never mind.
The “invasive sex testing” is a cheek swab to get cells which can be tested for the SRY gene. It’s much less invasive than the COVID tests we’ve all taken, and certainly doesn’t leave you with the lingering paranoia that you’re going to accidentally sneeze the stick into your brain.
The “genital checks” exist only in creepy male fantasies. Although it’s interesting that at higher levels, nobody has any particular problem with how they get samples of athletes’ urine for the dope testing, which involves observers watching the urine leave the body and checking for hidden tubes.
Changing the subject, maybe in a way that many of you won’t like:
Remember all the horror expressed by Western politicians at the slaughter of unarmed civilian demonstrators that took place in Iran in last months of the Shah’s régime, particularly on the 8th September 1978, but that was far from being the only example?
Yeah, me neither.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t like the mullahs any more than any other civilized person does, but a major difference is that the Shah was set up as an Anglo-American puppet (because we wanted their oil: remind you of anything?), whereas the mullahs are not.
‘the lingering paranoia that you’re going to accidentally sneeze the stick into your brain’ Started giggling at this and am finding it hard to stop.
Athel C-B, is it really necessary to change the subject from women’s issues to political issues? There are appropriate posts for your comments, or you could put it in miscellany. I know you said ‘in a direction we might not like’; it isn’t the content of your post that’s the problem, it’s where you put it. For decades, men have changed the subject when women have talked about rights. Please don’t be one of those men.
Hmm yes, good question. It’s one thing to talk about something different but related, but quite another to simply ignore the post and talk about something 100% unrelated. Why do that?
I’m not actually sure there are even any ‘LGB rights’ separate from ordinary human rights. As far as I can recall, LGB requests were merely to remove the prohibitions against, and criminal charges for, doing perfectly ordinary things that heterosexual people had been doing freely forever – having sexual relationships with other consenting adults, and getting married to someone with whom they wish to spend the rest of their lives. The only ‘rights’ their freedoms impinged upon weren’t actually rights at all – but those who wished to feel superior, and have a whole class of people whom they can regard as disgusting because of their religious beliefs don’t get to do that in a free society.