Oxford graduate student has major meltdown because one person has a different view.
I think by “robust safeguarding” he means not letting Enemies attend, and by “anti-trans interference” he means Enemies attending.
Of course it “sounds extreme,” because it is. Attending an academic event isn’t harassment.
A “panicked” phone call. Because what, he might ask a question?
He says, speaking publicly about it.
In other words the panic was stupid and the event went smoothly, but he must make a big fuss about the presence of An Enemy anyway.
What’s embarrassing about it? For Oxford, that is? I see what’s embarrassing for this fool and his friends, but not for Oxford. And what exactly is “the incident”? A guy they don’t like attended the panel. And?
They deal with “much worse shit” than what? What was bad about what happened? All he’s told us is that he wanted to get a guy he disagrees with barred from attending the panel, and Oxford said nope, and the panel happened and went well. How tragic.
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I mean, seriously, how would you feel if there was a person within sight of you that didn’t agree 100% with everything you said? That didn’t agree that biology is wrong, and men are women and up is down and inside is outside? Could you seriously stand that knowledge?
And the worse shit – of course, he might have asked a question or made a comment or rolled his eyes.
The fact that a “known transphobe” is allowed to exist in the world is harassment and violence to these special snowflakes. There, he’ll be happy. I said what he wanted me to say so his anger could be validated. (I’m using him – I have no idea if he is TiM and doesn’t change a thing about appearance or name to maintain white male privilege, if he is TiF and therefore really “she” or if he is one of 3000 other possible genders that no one can define, but we are supposed to accept exists.)
The best thing is that the Vice-Chancellor has had her time wasted by the histrionics of this self-pitying self-aggrandising moron. I would imagine her patience for this sort of nonsense is finite. Ideally the story will find its way into the Mail anyhow, which is exactly what Jack deserves.
I’m worn out just reading all that (well skimming it tbh). How can they exist on that level of elevated threat alert at all times? Do we know who the mystery demon was?
“I know very well Oxford has no interest in ‘challenging transphobia’ …”
By “challenging transphobia” she must mean preventing anyone from expressing disagreement, and preventing anyone who might possibly be suspected of having expressed disagreement somewhere from participating in the normal function of the university. She doesn’t mean listening to and addressing views, the usual understanding of “challenge”.
My guess from context on Jack Doyle’s timeline is that the person she doesn’t want to name is Selina Todd.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9265193/Oxford-professor-says-universities-dismal-failures-free-speech.html
About time he stopped being cisparent.
What are you guys talking about?? JACK DOYLE WAS JUST GENOCIDED!
The very idea of giving a talk at a university where somebody in the audience disagrees with one’s perspective! That’s not at all what universities are for!
What, like people standing outside chanting and pounding on doors?
I doubt that very much. What experience? If there’d been something like that they’d be screaming about it incessantly. By “shut down” he apparently means trans identified folx feeling “unsafe” and refusing to attend on the off chance they might hear or overhear something invalidating. That’s not what I consider being harassed and shut down.
Sheesh.
says Jack Doyle, while having a hissy fit because the University refused to allow a trans & allies (must never forget the allies) only, closed door panel session.
Got to admire the way that the VP’s involvement gets almost top-billing (cos it validates how Doyle is totes imports?) but it’s only halfway down the thread of self-pity and hyperbole that we find out that the VP’s involvement was to tell Doyle to quit the whining and act like an adult. Doyle doesn’t frame it exactly that way, but I’d bet that it was the message the VP conveyed, even if it were wrapped in more diplomatic language than I would have used.
This is an event that gives me hope because the VP and many others at the University are now getting first hand experience in how this gender cult will always demand groveling to their every whim. This whole event was exhausting for me to read about just now and I can imagine how exhausted the VP and University higher-ups are right now. Better grow a stronger spine, VP, because once you let the gender cult in, you will have nothing but misery.
Sounds like Jack Doyle has a feministphobia problem.
I was recently talking to a young friend who was bemoaning the fact that people on Facebook can just tell trans people to kill themselves, and nothing happens, but just being trans will get you kicked off. You know what? I’m not on Facebook so I can’t comment, but he has never given me a single example…
I’m thinking that academia may not be for these people. If the slight possibility of a question, the mere presence of someone who might not completely agree with trans ideology is that terror-inducing, then their first critical book review is going to destroy them. Are they going to spend their careers sheltering in some sort of trans-and-allies-only nature preserve, surrounded by metaphorical razor wire and watch towers? Mind you, I’d be scared shitless at the prospect of facing Dr. Jane Clare Jones’s RAINBOW PENS OF DOOM.
Are they so afraid to have their Holy Words overheard by the ears of Unbelievers? Does the magic of their recitations and mantras fail to manifest itself in the presence of Doubters? Or do they fell inhibited from saying what they really think about gender critical women (not that that stops them on Twitter…).?
At one point in the last few years, Dr. Selina Todd had to have a security detail with her in response to death threats which, among some trans activists is totally fine because, being an evil TERF, she probably deserved them. At this event, she probably had more reason to fear them than they had to fear her.
@4 I could be mistaken but Doyle uses the word ‘guy’, which I wouldn’t have thought applied to Selina Todd. Also I’m not ENTIRELY convinced we’d have had that performative terror about a woman (if anything I’d have expected more contempt/disgust at an unwanted female presence).
Iknklast – I am on FB, and can confirm that while I’ve seen many GC feminist groups and pages get Zuck’d for extremely minor “offences”, the “die terfs die” content continues unabated (not to mention, eg, unrelated groups happily using “do you agree there are a billion genders y/n” to decide who can join). Facebook, which added 72 gender options to its profile setup. I’m sure this will come as a complete surprise to us all.
With the new FB changes to groups basically anyone can join any group (or something like that) according to one of the big group admins I’m familiar with…
Min, that sounds more like what I hear about than his comment that “kill yourselves, trans” is going without notice. And 72 gender options? I bet they don’t include “quark” and “charmed quark” which are my declared pronouns.
Re #16, that isn’t the case. Facebook has made a lot of changes to Groups, but they still have two levels of group privacy, “public” and “private”. In a “private” group, only members can see who is a member of the group and what the members have posted. There is also the Group option of “visible” or “hidden”, indicating whether the group can be found via search. Plus, there are a variety of controls indicating who is allowed to join, who is pre-approved for membership, who is authorized to approve membership, and what hoops people have to jump through on order to join.
They haven’t just thrown all the years of private conversations in secret groups open to the world.
Certain words are being added to algorithms and coming to notice, even in private groups. A lot of silly spelling of the word men is occurring to avoid attention by the algorithms. I also saw a GC woman cop a 30 day ban for kindly saying to a trans man “you’re not ugly you silly goose”, because it is not permitted to compare any human to an animal.