Suburban white women (at least the ones I knew) were usually sympathetic during the AIDS epidemic. Nothing that was done to assist with controlling AIDS required women to dissolve their boundaries or accept men into their spaces. It did nothing to erase women from the language, or force us to include men in the definition of women.
Imagine if white misogynistic males had Twitter during the suffrage fight.
Nullius in Verba
Don’t forget the racism. It’s not just suburban women; it’s suburban white women. Because nothing says progress like tying human value to sex or race.
twiliter
ikn @1 I completely agree, women seemed much more sympathetic to AIDS sufferers as I recall, and the male homophobes were the gloaters, and there were a lot of them. Bennie boy isn’t old enough to remember. “Historian” my eye. The trans cult is full of hateful people. Being gay doesn’t exempt one from being a misogynist.
Rev David Brindley
I don’t know, nor do I care, who the plonker above is.
But my memory tells me that a large portion of all ages straight males didn’t need Twitter to pour hatred, scorn, and worse on Gay men. It would have been a terrible time to have been Gay. One of the earliest Australian deaths was of a young man who grew up in the house next to me. That is a memory I’d rather not have.
But even worse was what we, as a nation, did to a child.
Does he really think the AIDS panic was driven by women, and white women in particular? I was not exactly politically aware during the 80s, but I seem to remember it being more about homophobia expressed by straight men. Especially the conservatives, as it was a convenient cudgel with which to beat the group they already found repellent.
maddog1129
The Ruth Coker Burkses of this world sat with dying gay men when no one else would. Elizabeth Taylor created the Elizabeth Taylor AIDS Foundation when Frank Sinatra and Michael Jackson refused to help. If they’d had Twitter, Ronald Reagan might have been shamed into doing something sooner.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
I was never a fan of Princess Diana (though if you compare her with King Charles …), but she was another who did the right thing.
iknklast
Ah, but you see, Elizabeth Taylor and Princess DI weren’t MIDDLE-CLASS. That’s the ticket, right?
It does seem like many people hate the middle-class more than the wealthy, even (or maybe especially) those with unearned wealth. At least Elizabeth Taylor earned hers.
And someone beat me to mentioning Reagan but I’ll say what I was going to say anyway: Who ever knew Reagan was a middle-class white WOMAN? Or was I just assuming how he identified?
During the AIDS panic, I was in my first marriage. I was very sympathetic, and tried to do what I could, while the men in my husband’s family (including my husband, unfortunately) made nasty, homophobic jokes. My husband later left me…for a man.
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Suburban white women (at least the ones I knew) were usually sympathetic during the AIDS epidemic. Nothing that was done to assist with controlling AIDS required women to dissolve their boundaries or accept men into their spaces. It did nothing to erase women from the language, or force us to include men in the definition of women.
Imagine if white misogynistic males had Twitter during the suffrage fight.
Don’t forget the racism. It’s not just suburban women; it’s suburban white women. Because nothing says progress like tying human value to sex or race.
ikn @1 I completely agree, women seemed much more sympathetic to AIDS sufferers as I recall, and the male homophobes were the gloaters, and there were a lot of them. Bennie boy isn’t old enough to remember. “Historian” my eye. The trans cult is full of hateful people. Being gay doesn’t exempt one from being a misogynist.
I don’t know, nor do I care, who the plonker above is.
But my memory tells me that a large portion of all ages straight males didn’t need Twitter to pour hatred, scorn, and worse on Gay men. It would have been a terrible time to have been Gay. One of the earliest Australian deaths was of a young man who grew up in the house next to me. That is a memory I’d rather not have.
But even worse was what we, as a nation, did to a child.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-18/remembering-eve-van-grafhorst-after-hiv-diagnosis/10491934
Does he really think the AIDS panic was driven by women, and white women in particular? I was not exactly politically aware during the 80s, but I seem to remember it being more about homophobia expressed by straight men. Especially the conservatives, as it was a convenient cudgel with which to beat the group they already found repellent.
The Ruth Coker Burkses of this world sat with dying gay men when no one else would. Elizabeth Taylor created the Elizabeth Taylor AIDS Foundation when Frank Sinatra and Michael Jackson refused to help. If they’d had Twitter, Ronald Reagan might have been shamed into doing something sooner.
I was never a fan of Princess Diana (though if you compare her with King Charles …), but she was another who did the right thing.
Ah, but you see, Elizabeth Taylor and Princess DI weren’t MIDDLE-CLASS. That’s the ticket, right?
It does seem like many people hate the middle-class more than the wealthy, even (or maybe especially) those with unearned wealth. At least Elizabeth Taylor earned hers.
And someone beat me to mentioning Reagan but I’ll say what I was going to say anyway: Who ever knew Reagan was a middle-class white WOMAN? Or was I just assuming how he identified?
During the AIDS panic, I was in my first marriage. I was very sympathetic, and tried to do what I could, while the men in my husband’s family (including my husband, unfortunately) made nasty, homophobic jokes. My husband later left me…for a man.