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No. Of course not. Women’s prisons are women’s prisons. That has never meant that each man should be “assessed on an individual basis” before being sent to a men’s prison. It has always meant that women’s prisons are for women, and as such they are not for men. The end. There is no “humanity and decency” in forcing trapped women to share their spaces with men.
Why are so many people so eager to lavish “humanity and decency” on men at the expense of women? What is this about? Did everybody’s mommy say no to a third cookie once too often?
But this is hard work, Ophelia. They have to determine exactly just how “womany” each of these prisoners is before shipping them off to men’s prisons . It’s a complicated, weighted, sliding scale. A good head tilt wins extra points, bad make-up application results in deduction. Wardrobe is hard to judge by, given that prison garb tends to be sadly lacking i sequins and feather boas, but that’s all part of the challenge. These are diamonds in the rough; you have to imagine how they would shine, given a good polish. But it’s not just appearance, no. There is also a talent portion. Speech and deportment are important, too, though there is a tendency to overlook the ugly, male entitlement evident in each of the candidates. I guess allowances must be made; though even if not, allowances are made nonetheless.
Not a popular suggestion. Talk about ratio’d.
Excellent response here:
I think there are some basic understandings that would qualify one as an expert on “trans people” beginning with knowing the difference between males and females, and concluding with there being no way for anyone to change their sex. Then if you understand what single sex spaces are, your expertise is consummate.
Maybe her expertise lies elsewhere, like mealy mouthing.
Isn’t that most ten-year-olds? Or at least, it was when I was growing up.
GW@4 Probably most all of us? Rather if you understand what a trans person is, then you’re probably an expert simply by being able to understand the distinction.
Also, isn’t saying “treated with humanity and decency” kind of a weird way of putting it? Why not say humanely and decently, which humane and decent people do. Maybe this is just a personal quibble of mine, but when they speak of, for instance treating people with kindness instead of treating people kindly. Does’t that sound sort of clinical and abstract?
‘Time for your humanity treatment Mr. Smith.’ — Probably an outpatient procedure.
The men in women’s prisons are already convicted criminals. Yet this man thinks that there is some reliable way to tell if one those criminal men will offend again while in prison? If we had a way to tell with any accuracy which men would someday decide to harm a woman, why hasn’t it been used to keep us safe outside of prison?
I get that we can look at a man who has never done or been caught at any crime and say he seems safe to be around. But these guys are proven not safe to be around and/or dangerous to women and delusional. Yet each of those criminal men wrongly put in the wrong prison now deserve an “expert evaluation” that will deem him safe or unsafe to vulnerable women? Who are these experts? How can they evaluate future criminality?
twiliter, I’m pretty sure that “The Humanity Treatment” was an episode of the the superb original Outer Limits series. OK, such an episode was never made, but had it been, probably should have been a satire about dissidents being turned into zombies by being given “life saving medical care”.
The Official Trans Narrative is still blind to the real-life examples cited here. The ‘trans-woman’ prisoner is supposed to be a homeless teenage ‘sex-worker’ (and non-white)—one who actually passes for female and can expect relentless rape in a male prison. It is unacceptable to acknowledge that Karen White, Isla Bryson, Barbie Kardashian and co. are closer to the average.
In addition to the idealized “true transwoman” thing, there’s the implicit assumption that the established thing is required to make accommodations for the new thing or disruptor. The established is strong; the new is weak. They thus have the same oppressor-oppressed dynamic with which CSJ is always preoccupied.
If the British government, particularly the previous one, had not — following that punitive ideology that seems, among Western democracies, peculiar to those in the “Anglo-Saxon” world — packed the prisons with as many prisoners as they could stuff in, there would have been room to create separate quarters in men’s prisons for trans-women.