Author: Ophelia Benson

  • Taslima Nasreen Will Not Apologize…

    ‘for whatever I have written about the fundamentalists. I am willing to risk my life for that and continue my legitimate fight till the day I die.’

  • Bryan Appleyard Reviews The Evolution of God

    Takes a few kicks at ‘the absurd rhetoric of militant atheism’ while he’s at it.

  • The Uses of Common Sense

    A great deal of ink has been spilled in the course of Western
    philosophy over the question of whether or not the material
    world exists. Some great minds have been led to insanity by
    the possibility that it does not; others have accepted their
    nihilism cheerfully. But just about all philosophers, whether
    they came from the tradition of empiricism and skepticism,
    like Hume, or from that of idealism, like Hegel, were
    eventually forced into a sort of extreme subjectivism,
    concluding that we do not, in fact, exist, and that the world
    is merely the product of our imagination. Various
    philosophers accepted this solipsism to a greater or lesser
    degree, but it formed the essential tenor of philosophy in the
    modern world.

    This is rather alarming for those of us who stroll around in
    the non-philosophical world, putting one foot in front of the
    other on the hasty presumption that the ground exists and will
    be there to meet it. Most of us are probably frightened by
    the threat of nothingness which lies at the heart of this sort
    of thinking, which is why I’ve heard so many people describe
    philosophy as “depressing.” But unfortunately, there’s no
    way around these conclusions. It is entirely possible that
    the material world does not exist, that it is the product of
    our imagination.

    The breakthrough of the analytical philosophers, particularly
    Bertrand Russell, however, was to point out that, simply
    because something is possible, that does not make it true.
    This is where common sense comes in and allows us to
    distinguish between one possible proposition and another. For
    instance, it may be true that every person I’ve ever known is
    the product of my imagination. However, it may also be true
    that what our common sense tells us is correct, and that
    people have an independent existence. What is more, the
    second option has probability on its side. This is
    illustrated by the following example. Suppose I see a
    stranger out of the corner of my eye on a city street. I will
    probably not think anything of her, especially if I do not see
    her again for another twenty years. But at the end of those
    twenty years, when I do encounter her, she will appear twenty
    years older. Now, it is possible that I have an incredibly
    brilliant and far-reaching imagination which is capable of
    keeping tabs on every stranger I encounter and making sure
    that they all age whenever I’m not imagining I’m watching
    them, but this would be quite a feat. The more likely
    conclusion is that these strangers have an independent
    existence and material properties which cause them to age
    whether I am there or not.

    This is the value of common sense: it steps in where reason
    fails us. Of course, common sense may be wrong. It told
    Aristotle, for instance, that dung produces vermin, which no
    one believes today. Science often has to fight an uphill
    battle against common sense. But this underrated quality does
    get us through the day, and we all rely on it more than we are
    willing to admit. We do not steer clear of cliff edges, for
    example, because we know that the curvature of space-time
    causes massive bodies to exert force on one another, but
    rather, because of our common sense. Without it, we would
    surely all be dead by now.

    Common sense is not a replacement for reason, experience,
    scientific method, etc. But where these prove ineffective, we
    may be forced to use it, as in the above philosophical
    example. This brings me to my main purpose in this essay:
    religion and its relation to common sense. Religious people
    often deride atheists for their excessive reliance on reason.
    They regard us as arrogant eighteenth-century Whigs
    convinced that all the mysteries of the universe will
    eventually bow before our almighty reason. Little does it
    matter that it is far more arrogant to declare absolute
    knowledge about God and eternal life, as religious people do,
    than to say, along with the atheists and agnostics, that it is
    useless to make definite propositions about things which can
    neither be proved nor refuted.

    Atheists, at least in my experience, do admit that reason
    cannot conclusively solve all the questions of life. It can
    help make sense out of experience, intuit conclusions from
    masses of evidence, and connect one idea to another; it can
    also help us determine what is possible and what is
    impossible. But when it comes to determining between several
    possible conclusions, that is where common sense must aid us.
    We often rely on it to tell us that one thing is more
    probable than another.

    One of the favorite tactics of religious people and of the
    more militant “I don’t know” agnostics is to accuse atheists
    of having a pointless “faith” in the nonexistence of God.
    Everyone has her own absurd beliefs on the question, they say.
    Since none can be proved, why should atheists hold to their
    own view so firmly?

    Of course, your typical atheist does not say that there cannot
    possibly be a God; she says that she refuses to believe in one
    until she sees some evidence. All admit that there may be a
    God. There may also be a mystical creature called the Slynx
    which hangs by its tail from tall branches and drops onto
    unwary passersby. To say that one does not believe in either
    is not the same as declaring that both are outside the realm
    of possibility. This is where common sense makes its
    appearance. It is possible that the aforementioned Slynx
    exists in some deep woodland in Siberia or the American West.
    But because there have been no confirmed sightings of the
    Slynx in fraud-proof conditions, because no Slynx has been
    captured and put in a zoo, and because no unfortunate hikers
    are found in Yellowstone or Yosemite with unmistakable signs
    of Slynx manhandling, common sense tells us that it is more
    probable that there is no such thing. This assertion of
    probability is the only one that atheists are making.

    If we examine other religious questions we come to similar
    conclusions. Take, for instance, the question of the divine
    inspiration of scripture. Most religious people believe that
    their own preferred holy book was at least partially inspired
    by God, and some of the more tolerant believe that the same
    may be said of all scriptures (although most set L. Ron
    Hubbard’s Dianetics apart).

    Again, reason will only take us so far in all of this. It can
    help us determine what is possible, but beyond that, we are
    stymied. It is possible that there exists a God. This God
    may live in the sky or in a burning bush or with the Slynx in
    Siberia or outside of the material world entirely, as
    religious people now argue. It is also possible that this God
    inspired the Holy Scriptures. Reason does not tell us that
    this is necessarily either true or false, but common sense may
    point us in the right direction.

    First of all, the notion of the divine inspiration of
    scripture leads most people to conclusions which they cannot
    possibly accept, both ethically and empirically. One need
    only read the transcript of the Scopes Monkey trial to
    encounter a few obvious flaws in the Old Testament’s view of
    the world. As Clarence Darrow pointed out, while the Bible
    may not allow for the theory of evolution, it tells us a great
    many things as well which science has long since discarded.
    For instance, Joshua is described as demanding that the Sun
    stand still, which indicates that the Sun rotates around the
    Earth. Of course, many religious people do not today
    believe that this is the case.

    Most scriptures also teach ethical lessons which no one today
    can accept. If one seeks violent pornography, one need not
    read the Marquis de Sade, but simply open the Bible. This
    includes a scene (chapter 19 of Judges) in which a “selfless”
    man takes in a stranger who is being pursued by a gang of
    rapists (this is not to be confused with the story of Sodom
    and Gomorrah, which begins with a similar premise). The
    selfless man in question offers the rapists his daughter and
    his concubine instead of the stranger, who, as a man, has a
    right not to be raped which the Old Testament does not grant
    to women. “Ravish them and do whatever you want to them,” the
    man declares. The rapists proceed to do just that, after the
    concubine is sent out to them. The next morning, apparently
    without reason, the selfless man “took a knife, and grasping
    his concubine, cut her into twelve pieces, limb by limb, and
    sent her throughout all the territory of Israel.”

    This sort of grotesque, directionless loathing of women can be
    found in nearly all scripture, and this is not to mention the
    other violations of human rights and dignity that they
    encourage. Islam, for instance, was developed by patriarchal
    chieftains who practiced polygamy and slavery. Mohammad
    himself married a girl as young as nine, which we would now
    describe as pedophilia, and engaged in slave raids on rival
    tribes. Meanwhile, Hindu scriptures such as the Manusmriti
    encourage one to pour molten lead in the ear of a member of
    the lower castes who forgets her place, and the Ramayana, an
    epic with holy status, describes Ram, the godly hero, driving
    his wife Sita to suicide by self-immolation.

    Few people today would accept these things
    unquestioningly. Of course, there are still Islamists who
    throw acid in the face of girls attempted to go to school, and
    there are still members of the upper castes in India who
    commit atrocities against Dalits, but among the intellectual
    defenders of religion, this sort is a rare breed (although we
    shouldn’t overlook the more or less openly misogynistic
    Islamist “scholars” who are considered by many to be part of
    the mainstream). Rather, these defenders make the claim that
    the parts of these scriptures we find objectionable were not
    the work of God but were added later by malicious human hands.
    For instance, most modern Hindus no longer accept the
    Manusmriti as legitimate scripture. Also, most now regard
    Ram’s treatment of Sita as a sort of lesson in how not to
    treat women, and regard Sita’s suicide as an act of defiance.
    This seems an alarming claim to make when women in
    Afghanistan, for instance, are currently immolating themselves
    in large number due to the hopelessness of their condition.
    Should we regard these suicides as acceptable, or only those
    which supposedly took place long ago?

    But if there are apparently human hands at work in these
    scriptures, and they are not merely God’s words, then how are
    we to determine what is sacred and what is profane? Our own
    reason and conscience? But then, as our collective ideas
    change, we are bound to discover still more human meddling in
    the body of these scriptures. For instance, one hopes that we
    will someday regard cruelty to animals the way we now regard
    slavery, or that we will view the belief in hell and eternal
    punishment as extraordinarily vicious. Then we will
    undoubtedly uncover more human work, while God’s share in the
    writing of the scriptures will seem smaller and smaller, so
    much so that one wonders why He deserves the credit of sole
    authorship.

    So, we are faced with two possibilities, and reason assures us
    that both are theoretically possible. Either God, writing
    thousands of years ago at different points of the globe,
    somehow miraculously forecasted our future humanitarian ideals
    and attempted to write them down, but various wicked human
    scribes got in the way and put in a lot of rot about slavery
    and misogyny which God did not intend. This is, I repeat, a
    possibility. The other possibility is that scriptures were
    human books written by various ruling elites in backward
    societies, many of whom owned slaves and regarded women as
    chattel.

    And this is where common sense comes in, and points out that
    one of the two possibilities has a great deal of probability
    on its side.

    There remains one final religious argument to consider: that
    of Karen Armstrong in her recent book, The Case for God.
    Armstrong argues that atheist thought is incapable of
    demolishing faith in God, because religious people and theist
    writers have a conception of God which Richard Dawkins, say,
    has failed to understand. This conception of God is not of
    some bearded fellow in the sky, but of an enormous, universal
    question mark. This God cannot be understood, described, or
    expressed in human language. It cannot even be said to
    “exist” per se. Rather, it represents the mystery of the
    cosmos, the great enigmas of existence, before which we are
    powerless.

    One does a double take when faced with an argument of this
    sort. If God does not exist, then Richard Dawkins is
    perfectly correct. If Karen Armstrong does not believe in a
    God which has an actual existence, which can wield an impact
    on the physical world, which can affect our daily lives, and
    which can be thought of in something resembling language—in
    short, if all she believes is that the universe is full of
    mystery—then clearly she is an atheist herself. No serious
    atheist has ever denied that the universe is full of mystery,
    wonder, and majesty. While scientists and rationalists may
    have the hubris to attempt to solve one or two of these
    mysteries instead of accepting powerlessness and defeat, this
    does not mean that they are the philistines Armstrong thinks
    they are. Richard Dawkins, for example, has frequently
    written of the beauty of literature, art, and the natural world.

    The true absurdity of Armstrong’s argument is that she
    believes that all religious traditions have been built around
    this conception of God as a non-existent non-God. Scriptures
    and dogmas have simply attempted to guide believers toward
    this mature understanding, she argues. We will leave aside
    the obvious fact that if God is conceived as non-existent and
    lacking supernatural power, then it is no longer a God and the
    believer becomes an atheist. Armstrong’s assertions about
    religious traditions do not seem credible. Granted that many
    modern theologians have been forced to adopt an increasingly
    distant and non-Godly conception of God, but this has nothing
    to do with the traditions they represent and everything to do
    with the progress of science, which has steadily eroded any
    rational basis for religious belief and pushed theologians
    into further and further backwaters of linguistic nonsense
    (Armstrong’s apparent assertion that God exists without
    existing is only the most recent example).

    All scriptures describe a God or several lesser gods who
    speak, act, and wield an impact on the material world. All
    have a will, all interfere with our lives, and all may change
    things as they see fit. It is possible that Karen Armstrong
    is correct, and all of this is intended allegorically. But
    why, we may ask, would religious people write allegories in
    order to express the opposite of what they say? If they were
    trying to convince people that God does not exist in an
    explicit sense, why would they write allegories in which He
    does? Finally, why would prayer, sacrifice, and the belief
    that God can fulfill one’s wishes be such a deeply ingrained
    aspect of all religious traditions if those traditions did not
    believe that God could wield an impact on the real world?

    Common sense is indeed on our side. We atheists, therefore,
    do not need to regard reason as the only human capacity of
    worth. Religious people have long since abandoned reason,
    after all, as Freud pointed out in The Future of an Illusion.
    But even common sense and ethical feeling are against them.
    We may therefore conclude that no human thought process of
    merit, other than wishful thinking, leads to religious
    conclusions. The forces which compel so many otherwise
    intelligent people to accept their value must be sought
    elsewhere. The task is a big one, intended for more expert
    hands than mine.

  • Atheists packing heat

    Now it’s Michael Ruse’s turn to do the ‘atheists are evil’ routine using the numbingly familiar ‘atheists are evil’ weapon of shameless exaggeration and misrepresentation. In short, like all his pathetic allies in this tawdry campaign, he paints the people he dislikes as violent and aggressive when all in the world they are is verbally explicit.

    In the past few years, we have seen the rise and growth of a group that the public sphere has labeled the “new atheists” – people who are aggressively pro-science, especially pro-Darwinism, and violently anti-religion of all kinds…

    ‘Violently’ – in the sense of coming right out and saying that they think religion is a bad thing in many ways. That’s a pretty strained sense, if you think about it. That is to say, it’s a cheap trick, and unworthy of someone who says at the outset that he is a philosopher. Philosophers aren’t supposed to use exaggeration to do the work of argument. That’s a no-no in the trade. Ask anyone.

    Recently, it has been the newly appointed director of the NIH, Francis Collins, who has been incurring their hatred.

    No – their disagreement. Surely a philosopher ought to know the difference.

    Then he complains of Dawkins Coyne and Myers (catch them in the Pineapple Lounge tonight at 9:30) saying things about him, then he explains why they do:

    This invective is all because, although I am not a believer, I do not think that all believers are evil or stupid, and because I do not think that science and religion have to clash.

    No, it’s because you say stupid things like that. They ‘do not think that all believers are evil or stupid,’ and they don’t over-simplify that way, either.

    I engage with believers – I don’t accept their beliefs but I respect their right to have them.

    But that just describes us – the “New Atheists.” That exactly describes us. We respect people’s right to have beliefs – duh – but we don’t accept the beliefs. So – the implication that we don’t is just yet more misrepresentation.

  • Akbar Ganji: Open Letter to Ban Ki-moon

    An appeal to heed the widespread protests of the Iranian people.

  • India: 3 People Killed for ‘Witchcraft’

    Family members Karmi, 58 and Rahesh, 24 tried to save Munda, 65, but villagers killed them all.

  • Free Maziar Bahari

    Canadian/Iranian filmmaker and Newsweek correspondent detained in Iran since June 21.

  • Ottawa Should Do More About Maziar Bahari

    The Canadian journalist is one of many charged with inciting a ‘velvet revolution.’

  • Confronting Tehran’s Vicious Misogyny

    Tarek Fatah notes not even the Saudis have used rape as a tool of subjugation as the ayatollahs have.

  • Youngest Adults Are the Least Creationist.

    Even religious youth are less Creationist than older age cohorts.

  • Kenan Malik Asks: Are All Muslims the Same?

    Malik explores how perceptions of Islam have been shaped by the media.

  • Flying Rabbis Fight Swine Flu

    A group of rabbis and mystics circled Israel in a plane, praying and blowing horns to ward off H1N1.

  • Greg Fish on Losing Touch With the Real World

    Are people who think science is a gateway to atheism going to change their minds if you sweet talk them?

  • Jason Rosenhouse on Scapegoating

    Christianity and theism tend to be opposed to freedom of thought.

  • Palestinian Women’s Attitudes to Wife Beating

    Justified if a wife insults her husband (59%), disobeys husband (49%), goes out without telling husband (25%).

  • Reading Darwin in the Divinity School

    The Cambridge Darwin Festival was an ambitious attempt to mark the great man’s (and his great book’s) anniversary year. In setting up a Festival, not an academic conference, the organisers made a bold move to combine lectures and seminars with exhibitions and artistic responses, and gave attention to the man and the history as well as current scientific and philosophical work underpinned by the theory of evolution by natural selection.

    Big names from the neo-Darwinian vanguard (Dennett, Dawkins) received star billing. But quite a lot of time was given over to theologians (not to mention one or two non-tenured god-botherers cashing in on the margins) and the core message from them has been the same: not just the compatibility of Darwinian allegiance with a theological perspective, but the necessity of theology as bringing something additional to the discussion.

    Leading the theologians’ charge was Philip Clayton, Professor at the Claremont School of Theology, California, in a session headed “Theology in Darwinian Context”. A couple of good insights from Clayton – on pain and moral agency as two sides of the same coin, for example – didn’t make up for the false steps in his main arguments.

    From the start his rhetorical strategy made the crass, frequent, and unpleasant equivalence between the false assumptions of Intelligent Design, on the one hand, and the alleged errors of the “New Atheists”, on the other. The latter amounted to the straw man accusation of “scientism”: accusing atheist opponents of the belief that science can answer all meaningful questions, narrowing the field of human enquiry and the tools available to it. The tragedy of Dawkinsian influence, according to Clayton, is not its atheism but its dismissal from the field of debate of the big human questions, of deep reflections on the human condition using modes of thought appropriate to them. He quoted Wittgenstein – to the effect that philosophy exceeds science – and E.O. Wilson, on the need to understand some issues as matters of aesthetics, not knowledge. This is right, but irrelevant, as the authors in his sights make no such claims (see, for example, Dawkins’ statement “[s]cience has no methods for deciding what is ethical” from “Science, Genetics and Ethics” in A Devils Chaplain.)

    More helpfully Clayton noted that the set of “big questions” has itself been changed by Darwin’s ideas and made a good stab at suggesting what these might now be. Some of those set out had an unexpectedly empirical focus: what features of humans are qualitatively different to those of other species? Where has culture played a co-evolutionary role with biology and behaviour? Others straddled the border where empirical answers are likely to fight with interpretative preferences: is there a direction to evolution? If so does the direction have purpose?

    But, following the assertion that contemporary atheists dismiss such questions, Clayton didn’t think it necessary to demonstrate what theological tools offer to give us some traction on their complexity. Challenged from the audience by Dennett to explain what help theology can give that secular philosophy can’t, Clayton retreated to a definition of his discipline so broad it seemed an imperial attempt to annex Wittgenstein’s philosophy, E.O. Wilson’s aesthetics, and anything else on the arts faculty side of campus. Theology should not be thought of in terms of its history, Clayton said, but as human reflection on the big questions. Having fallaciously accused the “New Atheists” of disparaging the expertise of all non-scientific approaches, Clayton’s attempt to ditch God – and anything else that might put the theo into theology – from this non-definition of his discipline (itself a favourite word), gave the impression of staking territory in an academic cat fight rather than an attempt to create common ground on which to consider the big questions.

    Other speakers in the session were willing to place God, and their religious tradition, at the core of theological thinking, but with the inevitable side effect of pre-supposing a common religious position. So Professor J Wentzel van Huyssteen began with a lengthy, evidence-light speculation on the evolution of human minds within human bodies, and ended by asking what this meant for an understanding of Jesus as a man carrying, like us all, the history of human evolution in his genetic inheritance. You can see the issue, but not really one of the big questions if Jesus isn’t also the son of God.

    Fraser Watt, from Cambridge, had a lot on his mind. Between further swipes at straw man versions of atheist arguments, he wanted to take “evolutionary Christology” (which interprets the arc from Fall to salvation as a description of evolutionary developments starting with early humans’ first conceptualisation of good and evil) and purge it of assumptions about evolutions’ necessarily progressive nature. There are some real issues about the idea of progress in evolution – a gain in structural complexity in biological organisms? a move towards intelligence? – and Watt’s review of how this played out amongst different nineteenth century Darwinians was nice, but “evolutionary Christology” turns out to be the irrelevance it sounds. In questions Watt conceded his was an interpretation of science, not science, but left implicit that it adds nothing to our understanding if one is not committed to Christ as redeemer. His own reasons for rejecting progression were never that clear – a strong sense that the idea was a little embarrassing for the modern theologian, with an odour of empire and the pre-post-modern.

    Making up the quartet of post-Darwinian theologians was Dr Denis Alexander. Alexander placed himself as, first and foremost, a practising scientist, and his argument was very different.
    Rather than defending theology on the basis of (unproven) insights into aspects of the human condition beyond biology, or posing (falsely) as the reasonable centre ground of inter-disciplinary insight, Alexander made a more robust – though cautiously worded – attempt to undermine atheist argument on its Darwinian home territory.

    Again the issue was progress – and more specifically purpose – in the evolutionary process. Alexander’s argument was that recent findings suggest that it is less plausible than has been believed that evolution is a mere chance process, with no necessary direction or purpose. Some of this evidence is straightforward – the biological record shows ever greater structural complexity with passing evolutionary time – and some more specialised. So protein structures show a limited variation in their structural motifs, evolution appearing to discover the same structures repeatedly, whilst a surprising number of instances are being discovered of evolutionary convergence, where separate evolutionary pathways produce similar results.

    This is a fruitful line of thinking, but a hundred metres off Alexander’s target. Though he never quite said it, implied was that an emphasis on chance in evolution leans to the atheist pole, whilst evidence of direction is one up for the theists. But this holds no water. His flag bearer for contingency was Stephen Jay Gould, the theologians friend and coiner of the concept of non-overlapping magisteria for science and religion; whilst the champions of evolutionary convergence include Dawkins. Nor, I think, is there a case in logic. The existence of complex, cognitive humans is something any serious atheist needs to account for. Dawkins tackles the problem with his “ultimate 747” argument, in essence that any explanation of complex beings through intentional design leads to infinite regress, as the designer itself needs explanation, whilst a blind process – step forward natural selection – can do the job and is complete in itself. That the operation of natural selection in nature may be constrained to certain outcomes in no way undermines that. Undeniably, the parameters operating in our universe produced us. Whether that’s the result of constraints within the evolutionary process, aspects of the physical properties underlying matter, the existence of an infinite set of universes, or extra-ordinary luck is a big scientific question. But which is the right explanation of the fact of our being has no bearing on the existence of God, above and beyond the fact itself, and that requires no supernatural explanation – just natural selection.

    So, did any of this matter? Watt, van Huyssteen and Alexander made specific arguments, which, in themselves, were unlikely to trouble anyone outside the divinity school. But it was Clayton’s more general manifesto which set the tone, and all, at least implicitly, aligned themselves with it. And this seemed to be the strategy: a bogus claim to theology’s central, cross-disciplinary relevance from the standard bearer, based on a definition of the subject so broad as to be meaningless (with some caricature of one’s opponents and a pinch of victimhood thrown in), then God, Christ and the works smuggled back in by the following troops. Does “strategy” overstate the intention? Possibly, but it’s worth noting the institutional weight bearing down: the Templeton Foundation (sponsor), the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion (Alexander), the Starbridge lectureship in Theology and Natural Science (Watt), the Princeton Professorship of Theology and Science (van Huyssteen). It’s a strategy worth resisting.

  • Are we hating atheists enough yet?

    Jason Rosenhouse points out another way of looking at the matter:

    What is so significant about the New Atheist books is the sheer volume of books that they sold. They have revealed that to a far greater extent than was previously realized, there is a hunger in America for books written from a non-religious perspective. That is a momentous accomplishment, and one that should warm the hearts of anyone who cares about promoting science and reason.

    Quite; and in doing that, they have also made it easier for atheists to be frankly as opposed to covertly atheists. That too is a momentous accomplishment, and a useful one. That is one reason it is irritating to have reactionaries telling us ‘No no no no no, you have to be covert about it, all this frankness is a disaster and an outrage, get back in that closet at once.’

    This is all just standard scapegoating from M and K. It’s so much easier to focus on a handful of writers who arrived on the scene just in the last few years and to ignore the deeper cultural forces that have tended to make America more hostile to science than other industrialized countries.

    It’s scapegoating and worse – it’s become a full-throttle campaign to work up hatred and rage against atheism and atheists. Mooney and Kirshenbaum may not even realize that’s what it is, but if they don’t, they’re being very stupid and very reckless. They should be more aware and more careful. They should realize what kind of language they are using, and stop doing it. They should not, for instance, say that ‘The atheist biologist Jerry Coyne of the University of Chicago, for instance, has drawn much attention by assaulting the center’s Faith Project’ – but that’s exactly what they do say. That’s very loaded language – loaded, provocative, misleading, and potentially dangerous. Like Jason, I find that vexing.

  • Using highly abrasive language

    The twins are back with a vengeance. They are worse than ever. It is as if they have swallowed some terrible slow-acting Kool-aid that is dissolving their brains in tiny increments. Where will they be by October?! Curled on the floor drooling?

    It’s the same old thing, only worse – the sequiturs more non, the rhetoric more cranked up and deceptive, the petulance and finger-pointing more brazen.

    …assault on their faith…straight into a world of moral depravity and meaninglessness…in-your-face atheist touting evolution…unending polarization around evolution and religion…

    Pause to note that Mooney and Kirshenbaum themselves are working energetically and overtime to foster and increase the very ‘unending polarization’ they complain of.

    …no tolerating nonscientific beliefs…attack and belittle religious believers, sometimes using highly abrasive language…moderate scientists…the hallowed institutions of American science…politically, spiritually and practically they see no need to fight…regularly blasted for it by the New Atheists…the atheist biologist Jerry Coyne has drawn much attention by assaulting the center’s Faith Project…Coyne is once again following the lead of Dawkins…denounces the NCSE…

    Then they finish up by giving in inaccurate account of Charles Darwin’s reply to Edward Aveling then telling us (‘the New Atheists’) we ‘ought to deeply consider’ the difference between Darwin and Dawkins. ?! Why ought we? We don’t belong to the church of either one of them. We know how to think all by ourselves without any training wheels. Mooney and Kirshenbaum cannot say as much.

    Update: I’m still banned from commenting on their site. Last time they just left my comments in ‘moderation’ forever, but this time they’ve simply deleted them (after first trapping them in moderation). They’re a sleazy pair.

  • Crunchy Con Agrees with Mooney/Kirshenbaum

    Conservative politics and religion; well there you go.

  • Christian ‘Clinic’ Promises to Cure Cancer

    Faith-healing clinic in Christchurch NZ offers to cure cancer and broken bones through prayer.