Tag: Hamza Tzortzis

  • Dear aspiring men

    Hamza Tzortzis of 5pillars and gender segregation at university events fame tells men to “man up” and be Chivalrous toward the Ladies.

    Dear aspiring men,

    Whoever you are, wherever you are, and whatever you believe in, it is time we used that one gender difference that has not yet been disputed amongst our “feminist” and “liberal” sisters – your strength and physical appearance.

    Nice start, isn’t it, expressing contempt for feminist and liberal women. I feel so much safer now.

    The picture helps too.

    Hamza Tzortzis’ message to “aspiring men” #ManUpUK

    Oh right – that’s unmistakably a woman being protected and not a woman being held captive. No question. It’s obvious.

    It has come to my attention that women in the UK are feeling less safe.

    Here is one way of trying to solve this endemic problem. The next time you witness any form of verbal or physical abuse in public, stand up and put that coward to shame!

    Here’s an example of what you can do or say:

    “Excuse me sir… I have a zero tolerance policy towards any form of abuse against vulnerable people. Please stop what you are doing or I will use every lawful means necessary to put a stop to it.”

    That’s the ticket – make a big point of saying women are weak and fragile, by way of helping them out with your strength and physical appearance.

    Morality is on your side, the law is on your side, and more importantly – God is on your side!

    Protect our women, by being men – real men!

    If you “man up”, then you will help revive a long lost universal tradition of chivalry and protecting women.

    Here are some more helpful tips. When travelling at night or during the day, try sitting or standing close to areas where you may think there are vulnerable people. This will allow you to guard that area until you have to move on towards the rest of your journey.

    Yup yup yup. All women are vulnerable people, and also, it’s a brilliant idea to seek them out and then get close to them, in order to [wink wink nudge nudge] “guard” the area.

    On the other hand this sounds like a lot of trouble for men, plus it might turn out to be dangerous for them, so really wouldn’t it be simpler and safer and better all around for women to just stay home?

  • UCL looks the other way

    Chris Moos sent me a new statement from the Concerned Students about the iERA event at UCL. It turns out that UCL wasn’t as uninvolved as it claimed.

    Despite denial, UCL staff found to have actively enforced gender segregation

    Following the events of March 9th, UCL has denied that its members of staff were allowing the enforced gender segregation on attendees, and issued a statement that alleged that UCL had responded appropriately to warnings from student, putting measures in place that only failed to protect students because the organiser iERA acted in counter of them (see annex). New evidence has now emerged that UCL has neglected its duty of care towards students to an unprecedented amount, with UCL staff not only tolerating, but also actively enforcing gender segregation.

    An individual who identified herself as “Dr Aisha Rahman”, who claimed that she was “teaching at UCL Chemistry” and that she had “booked the room on behalf of UCL Chemistry”, said the segregation had been agreed with the university and repeatedly refused two students, Christopher Roche and Adam Barnett, access to the venue unless they complied with the segregated seating plan.

    When confronted with the evidence that a UCL member of staff enforced, rather than opposed gender segregation, UCL Vice-Provost Rex Knight said: “Miss Rahman is a student at UCL, not a member of staff, and the booking for the event was made by her in a personal capacity, not as a representative of UCL. I note that you are seeking an apology and I suggest that you take that up with Miss Rahman; we are unable to assist you in that regard as Miss Rahman was not acting as an agent of UCL.”

    However, contrary to Mr Knight’s statement, new evidence shows that Miss Rahman is indeed a member of staff of the UCL Chemistry Department and listed in the UCL staff directory, and not solely a student (see annex).

    Christopher Roche, one of the affected students said: “There is a great deal of confusion as to who exactly Aisha Rahman is. Whilst she claimed to be an academic in the Department of Chemistry, I have been informed that senior management at the university deny both her qualifications and seniority. Given that Ms Rahman is indeed a member of staff, the claim that she is not an agent of UCL does not seem entirely credible. No matter what the truth is, Ms Rahman has used a stated position in the Department of Chemistry to organise and run a gender-segregated event at the university. I understand UCL’s desire to minimise their responsibility in this matter, but from the information I have been given, it appears that they need to urgently reconsider this position”.

    The fact that UCL are denying their affiliation to Miss Rahman raises many questions, especially given that Miss Rahman is now using her affiliation with UCL to spread libellous information about complainants Christopher Roche and Adam Barnett (see annex).

    She what?

    So I saw annex. The annex in question is a link to a post at The National Federation of Atheist, Humanist and Secular Student Societies. There we find a comment with Aisha Rahman’s name on it. What does she say?

    While on the matter did Chris Roche tell you that I had said to him and his friend that the reason for being involved in arranging this event was to create a safe and RESPECTFUL environment in which peoples views could be exchanged. It was a chance for muslims and atheists to come together and discuss their views. Chris Roche had and showed no respect for women’s rights, as it was the women who had put in the request for ladies only seating, for which we were trying to accommodate. As organisers we were trying to accommodate and be respectful to ALL. Just as we accommodated the request for mixed seating FOR ANYONE and not just couples as you have INCORRECTLY reported. We did not FORCE people to sit in any of the given areas. Chris Roche and his friend made it clear that they did not just want to sit in the ladies section (…which in the end was accommodated to prevent further delay to the event) but that he wanted to sit IN BETWEEN women, and not just any women but muslim women, clearly with a view to offend. At no point did he say that he wants a better understanding of views or to exchange ideas etc., If he’d given any such reason that he was GENUINELY interested in a discussion I would’ve happily asked if he and his friend would have any objection to sitting with me (as I qualify as female and muslim). There were a number of muslim women sat in the mixed area too. But the debate wasn’t what they were interested in, as proven by their actions. It’s pathetic really. He showed a complete lack of regard for women’s right, and was clear that he was insistent on causing a disruption and nuisance. I am really proud that my university are investigating these false claims that have been made – it is very clear what the agenda is here by yourselves in your distorted reporting and others jumping on the bandwagon. FYI there were 325 attendees in that auditorium, it was only 2 who were insistent on playing musical chairs.

    What is all this nonsense about “not just any women but muslim women” as if “muslim women” are automatically recognizable? It’s a sly way of enforcing the idea that all Muslim women wear a Muslim costume.

    At any rate, if Rahman really is on the UCL staff, she’s pretty alarming.

    On top of that, despite the assurances of UCL, UCL security staff did not only fail to protect attendees from enforced gender segregation, but several attendees who approached UCL’s security personnel to alert them to the situation were indeed instructed to comply with the organisers’ policy of segregation (see annex).

    Chris Moos, a student who has been in correspondence with UCL, asked for reassurance that the university has made it clear to Miss Rahman and the security guards that this conduct is inappropriate and that an internal investigation is being conducted into their actions. In response to that, UCL Vice-Provost Rex Knight, denied any responsibility of UCL to give these concerns due consideration, stating that “as regards to your other points I believe that they are covered by our public statement, your discussion with Dr Siddall and my earlier response.”

    Chris Moos said: “This response is highly surprising, as many questions remain unanswered: Has Ms Rahman acted in accordance or against the instructions of UCL? Has she abused her position of power within UCL, whether imaginary or real, to enforce gender segregation? How is it possible that Miss Rahman was able to book a lecture theatre for an organisation that holds views contrary to the ethos of UCL on behalf of the UCL Department of Chemistry? Why are the attempts of Miss Rahman to spread libellous information about the attendees of the event, using again her affiliation to the UCL Chemistry department to lend authority to her false account of the events, not countered by UCL? UCL should do justice to the students who were affected by the failure of UCL to protect them and answer these questions.”

    Halima, another student attendee said: “This issue is even more pressing as it is not an isolated case. Speakers that promote extremist views and create an intimidating atmosphere for student attendees speak regularly on campuses, including at UCL. There is a real need for UCL to address the problems we are raising, and these events have highlighted that UCL’s current procedures and security protocols are insufficient for dealing with these kinds of cases. UCL should thoroughly investigate the behaviour of its staff, retrain them if necessary and devise new procedures for making sure that all events at UCL are inclusive to all attendees.”

    The students concluded: “We were seeking an apology from UCL for the way they failed to protect us from the enforcement of gender segregation. UCL should make it clear that their staff who were enforcing or tolerating segregation will be going through the appropriate disciplinary procedures. UCL should also provide the public and us with an answer to our questions, and not brush off the concerns that we are raising. It is surprising that UCL has not only neglected its duty of care towards students, but seems now unwilling to make sure that the events are investigated in a way that would prevent similar ordeals in the future.”

    Annex: Link to Aisha Rahman’s entry in the UCL Staff Directory

    Link to press statement of concerned students of March 11th

    Link to Aisha Rahman’s libellous comments against Mr. Roche and Mr. Barnett

    Screenshots available upon request

    I thought UCL was doing better than that, and I was cheered to think so.

    Vigilance is still required.

     

     

     

  • Hamza Tzortzis three years ago

    A Twitter friend pointed out this post about Hamza Tzortzis from October 2010.

    The Q&A session started with the announcement that whilst the Brothers in the audience were allowed to address the speaker directly, the Sisters had to write their question on a slip of paper which was then passed down to the front and vetted before being answered. Unbelievable. Perhaps what is more unbelievable is that the practice is being defended, and not labelled the outright misogynistic behaviour that it is. This was posted on the Islamic Society group page on Facebook.

    Just one side-note regarding the point which one of the atheists (I don’t know who) raised regarding our sisters etc. The reason why sisters write questions on paper is because many of them feel shy, its called “hayaa”. Its not because they’re less than us!!! And also, there were so many brothers sitting on the floor, can we say: Muslims disrespect men because they had to sit on the floor?? If he didnt know, thats ok, but he should have asked. Isnt asking the cure to the disease of ignorance?

    For a start, ALL the sisters were told to write their questions on paper, not just the shy ones. I can’t imagine that none of the 40-odd women in the room were so shy they couldn’t put their hand up. And surely a room full of fellow, sympathetic Muslims is the best place to overcome your shyness? Yes, asking is the cure to the disease of ignorance. It’s just a shame that the Brothers seems to be keeping the cure for themselves. Around 10 bits of paper were passed to the front and not a single question from them was answered. In fact he actually chastised one woman for ’‘writing an essay’.

    Oh good grief. They feel shy, it’s called “hayaa”. Speaking about it, being intellectually active about it, it’s more of a guy thing. Same old same old same old.

    Via that post, there’s a long, informative one at Harry’s Place, which concludes by warning people not to debate Tzortzis.

    In conclusion – do not give Tzortzis credibility by offering him a platform or sharing one with him

    While the writer hopes that this post will prevent all UK university Islamic societies from giving Tzortzis a platform ever again, this is highly unlikely.  More realistically, student unions can now be warned about the man’s true political intentions in order for action to be taken the higher levels and overrule the Islamic societies.  Readers are asked to forward the link to this post to their local universities, humanist groups and another other potentially interested parties.

    Moreover, the main purpose of this post is to warn all atheist, secularist and humanist speakers of the dangers of sharing a platform with Tzortzis.  While it is stressed that there is no evidence of a direct physical risk to person or property, speakers should err on the side of caution and bear this possibility in mind.  The greatest risk is that if humanist speakers are willing to share a platform with Tzortzis in a discussion or a debate, this will only give him further credibility and further opportunity to spread the ideology of HTB.

    I guess the warning needs to be spread around a little more widely.