Sincere but sarcastic

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Another thing – small, but so typical.

A comment on that post of PZ’s:

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Silentbob

@ 94 John Morales

(I did withdraw from her blog because I was contentious there, and annoying her, but still, it was not because I was banned there. Like this blog, to which I have returned, thanks to PZ’s (hopefully juditious) sufferance, mainly because I’m not insincere)

I was also contentious and annoying but lacked your circumspection and first got placed in perpetual moderation (for quoting Gloria Steinem) and then apparently banned (silently, sometime in the past couple of years) despite also being sincere (if sarcastic). So I suppose your obsequiousness with respect to anti-trans attitudes paid off.

The “her blog” in question is this one right here.

The last time a comment of Silentbob’s appeared here:

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Silentbob
July 14, 2018 at 10:26 pm

it’s interesting that people who seem to consider themselves to be on the left think that is a fine woke lefty image

Who? Tell me who these people are. You seem to be developing this Thunderf00t-esque habit of of pointing to the most ChantyBinx-style characatures and claiming they’re typical. Who in the flying fuck is calling for transphobic bigots to be lynched? There are no “Trans Activitsts” calling for lynching or anything similar.

I don’t want transphobic shits to be lynched. I also don’t what antisemities to be lynched. I don’t whant Aryan supremacists to be lynched. I don’t  want members of the Westboro Baptist Church to be lynched.

Given that you apparently have no evidence this image is representative of trans activism (to but it mildly), and given we obviously have a massive transphobia problem in our society, shouldn’t you be more skeptical? My first thought when presented with an image like is would be that this is transphobic propaganda. It should at least be considered as such until proven otherwise.

See the date? July 14 (Bastille Day) this year. Not quite three months ago. Not the past couple of years, under three months ago. I let him spew his bile at me for nearly three years after I left the blog network.

The comment I didn’t allow to post came in on August 17, with one more the next day, so that’s only six weeks ago. He’s been “apparently” “silently” banned for all of six weeks, after almost three years of a good run of sarcastic insults. I think I was damn generous.

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11 responses to “Sincere but sarcastic”

  1. Seth Avatar
    Seth

    And his lies will go unexamined on a blog network that once prided itself on skepticism and rational inquiry.

  2. Ophelia Benson Avatar
    Ophelia Benson

    Well, to be fair, it’s not significant enough for other people to examine closely. But what it says about “Silentbob”‘s honesty in disagreement – that’s another story.

  3. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    I don’t recall him ever actually arguing–I suspect he doesn’t know how.* **He rarely engaged at all with substantive disagreement. His schtick was: make (sarcastic) assertion, run away. Or come back with another assertion, ignoring others’ comments.

    He belongs at Pharyngula. He’ll be happier there.

    ** “Given we obviously have a massive transphobia problem in our society” why, there’s an assumption that could use a bit of skeptical inquiry, right there. But it’s axiomatic for Bob. How convenient that the burden of proof always lay with Ophelia.

    * Beyond Python Argument Clinic-style argument. That he can do.

  4. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    That comment #94 of John Morales’ that Silentbob was responding to began with a sort-of defence of you, Ophelia, but the response to that in the very next comment was…well, ttake a look:

    John Morales

    1 October 2018 at 1:09 am

    Porivil, actually, I’m with Ophelia, who I reckon is a True Feminist, if arguably TERFish.

    Porivil Sorrens

    1 October 2018 at 1:42 am

    “True feminist” and “TERFish” are mutually exclusive states.

    She falls in the latter.

    You don’t get to make posts (like she did literally today) where you whine about transgender-integrated sports programs and call yourself anything but a reactionary twat.

    No specifics of why you were wrong, you just were, apparently, because SHUT UP!

    I was amused, having read the entire thread, to note that not a single one of the woke so much as tutted about the gendered insult at the end, even. Would that be because in their fantasy world genitalia is not a gendered thing? Or just because they are one-trick ponies who can only get angry with the fashionable social injustice de jour, and gendered insults are so 2015?

  5. Skeletor Avatar
    Skeletor

    Maybe he’s remembering when he allegedly left voluntarily in 2016:

    It’s OK, I’ll piss off of my own volition. No hard feelings on my part.

    http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2016/what-did-you-think-you-were-getting-into/#comment-2675862

    Maybe his time after that was a sort of a limbo that didn’t really count?

    Wait…you can be banned for being contentious and annoying, and for drive-by commenting? Uh oh.

  6. James Garnett Avatar
    James Garnett

    Silent Bob was always a raging imbecile. Good riddance. He fits in well with the Pharyngula commentariat.

  7. latsot Avatar
    latsot

    So what was the purpose of SB’s comment at Pharyngula?

    Was it: “Ophelia banned me…..*ME*…. from commenting so she’s obviously an evil witch”?

    Was it: “I’m desperately trying to fit in with a narrative – possibly any narrative – regardless of the truth and/or consequences”?

    Was it: “I’m so important that I need to use every scant opportunity to lie about being maligned”?

    Was it: “THIS’LL show her”?

    It isn’t clear.

    What is clear is that – as Seth said – people will read that and cluck about Ophelia’s injudicious, duplicitous ladybrain without bothering to spend a moment thinking about what they’re doing. They’ll see it as further evidence of her TERFitude regardless of the fact that it would have been no such thing even if it had actually happened.

    @Skeletor:

    Wait…you can be banned for being contentious and annoying, and for drive-by commenting? Uh oh.

    You’re hanging by a thread, sunshine. HANGING BY A THREAD.

    ;)

  8. latsot Avatar
    latsot

    And by the way, Silentbob, what the fuck?

    Tell me who these people are

    That really boiled my piss at the time because the entire post was literally about some people who appeared to be advocating the lynching of TERFs. If they weren’t doing that by depicting a lynched woman with the caption “Dead TERFs” and a little love heart then what were they doing? I genuinely can’t imagine a clearer message.

  9. Bruce Gorton Avatar
    Bruce Gorton

    I came across this today and I just feel the need to vent.

    The Economist is running a piece comparing Donald Trump to the leaders of China, Turkey and Russia, and talking about how these leaders are threats to Democracy.

    I saw it because Helen Zille a local politician retweeted their video, and you can actually see a lot of what the Economist is talking about in groups like the EFF.

    https://twitter.com/Jesus_was_a_Lib/status/1048876887122952192

    Responding to somebody saying that democracy is the best system we’ve come up with so far, you have this doofus saying:

    “Except if you’re a Woman, a Person of Color, an immigrant, a Muslim, or poor in the United States. But other than that, yeah, just the “best”!”

    Because you know, things were sooo much better before women, people of colour and religious minorities had the right to vote.

    This is why I despise the “woke”.

  10. Holms Avatar
    Holms

    Shitting on things that are good but imperfect is pretty much the calling card of the woke.

  11. Ophelia Benson Avatar
    Ophelia Benson

    As is not knowing a whole hell of a lot about pretty much anything.

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