Provocation
Via Barry Duke at The Freethinker, a story of a guy on a bus in Istanbul who told off a young woman for wearing shorts during Ramadan.
He said in a statement:
I warned the woman in shorts because it caught my attention that her clothes were too revealing and her crotch was visible; and, I was fasting [for Ramadan]. I said to her: ‘My friend, there is something called manners and morals. Getting on a public transportation like this is not proper.’
So, in response to this, the woman told me ‘not to look, then’… I told her that sometimes people cannot control their desires and told her that her way of dressing turned me on. She huffed … and began to talk to someone on her phone about me saying ‘Some man on the bus is giving me stupid advice on religion and so on’.
I heard this and I got angry; and, I told her to stop talking about me to the other person … and, I just pushed her face with the back of my hand slowly before getting out of the car …
But sadly for him there’s video. He gave her a hard backhanded slap as he walked past her.
He added that Saglam then got up and “attacked and cursed” him.
At that time, I thought the woman was an athlete because she attacked me with a great move and courage … The woman punched me on my left shoulder. Her punch was not very strong.
I pushed the woman just so I could prevent her from harming me. If the camera recordings are examined, it will be seen that I did not attack or batter the woman. Then, I got out of the vehicle just to not get into an argument with her. I have a complaint about her!
But again the video shows that he did attack and batter the woman.
Newsweek yesterday reported that Kizilates had been detained immediately after the incident, which took place on June 14, but he was released after he explained that he had been provoked. A warrant for his arrest was then issued after Turkish women’s activists reacted angrily to the attack.
I suppose next Kizilates will be giving lectures to young men on how not to be accused of attacking women on buses.
Well, some people are just going to have to get used to controlling their desires…
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/world/middleeast/israeli-woman-who-sued-el-al-for-sexism-wins-landmark-ruling.html
“sometimes people cannot control their desires and told her that her way of dressing turned me on”
“I heard this and I got angry”
Oh, when will women start taking personal responsibility for the things they make men do?
I foresee changes to the Turkish education system. Young men will be pulled out of class and taught how to batter women without being caught on video.
Ideology is all about enforcing unfalsifiability. That’s religion 101; come on ‘guys’, get it together.
@Helene
Unfortunately Istanbul is not in Israel, nor is a ruling applied to El Al going to mean anything to a transport company in Turkey.
I have many disagreements with Israel, but they’re better on gender issues than a lot of the Middle East.
‘…better on gender issues than a lot of the Middle East.’
What square inch of the Middle East AREN’T they better than?
Alas, John, I am not an expert on women’s rights in every single small country in the Middle East so the only qualifier I am willing to stand behind is, “most.”
I suspect Israel may come well ahead on most rubrics – but without that knowledge I’m not going auto-damn every nation in that area.
Agreed that Israel is likely less sexist than other Middle Eastern countries, but still a difference of degree rather than kind – see http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.666140
@7,
The ultra-orthodox “rule” in their ghettoized communities: Bnei Brak, Mea Shearim, etc. Otherwise, Israel has far better equality/protection of women and LGBTs than any country in Asia (including the Middle East, of course) or Africa. and, I’d venture to say most countries in Europe. There are women pilots in El Al, women (and gays, openly) serve in all (including combat) sections of the armed forces, and, of course, all divisions of the goverment… e.g., the current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is a woman (Miriam Naor).
John the Drunkard, #5: I assume that question was rhetorical?