He’d slap you happily

It turns out Jordan Peterson isn’t just a man of facile deepities, he’s also a man of noisy threats.

Jordan Peterson joins the club of macho writers who have thrown a fit over a bad review.

The New York Review of Books, which is famous for drubbing high-profile authors, was particularly harsh on Canadian psychologist Jordan Peterson in a review published online on Monday. Surveying 12 Rules For Life, Peterson’s new book, critic Pankaj Mishra warned that the self-help guru “may seem the latest in a long line of eggheads pretentiously but harmlessly romancing the noble savage,” but that he draws on a tradition of writers like Carl Jung who were prone to—as the headline put it—“fascist mysticism.”

Peterson’s elegant but forceful response:

Apart from everything else wrong with that response, there’s the oddity of (apparently) treating “noble savage” literally rather than as a reference to a very familiar literary/philosophical trope originating with Rousseau. Mishra doesn’t mention Charles Joseph, so “That’s how you refer to my friend Charles Joseph?” is mystifying.

Then he expands on the point.

Who wouldn’t want to learn timeless wisdom from that guy?

Nesrine Malik pointed out the mismatch:

The dissonance is comical in a Judd Apatow movie kind of way, where a human oxymoron is the punchline. Jordan is The Angry Guru, The Pissed-Off Yogi, The Totally Untogether Psychiatrist. A fragile authority who spends his time dishing it out but just can’t take it. A brittle ego who exhorts his fans to find peace by accepting that life is tough – while losing it completely every time he steps barefoot on a metaphorical piece of Lego. A tragic physician who cannot heal himself. It’s so jarring. Reading Jordan is, according to the writer Hari Kunzru, “like being shouted at by a rugby coach in a sarong”.

How about if Judd Apatow makes him the next Seth Rogen, and then we could all forget about him.

Jordan reminds me of the youngish Muslim preachers who became all the fashion in the Arabic-speaking world after the proliferation of satellite TV in the 90s. They just wanted youth to live a better life by following the simple rules of submission to the natural order of things – the pain was in fighting it. These preachers, always men, and always appealing to other men to shoulder their responsibilities, had the preternatural calm of the faithful but when challenged, the temperament of the hysterical. They derived their status from the hierarchy, and so once it was questioned, they were all fire and brimstone. They had little intrinsic value to offer, and even less original thinking.

I think we’ve found a match!

H/t Maureen

Comments

18 responses to “He’d slap you happily”

  1. AJ Milne Avatar

    Re “…like being shouted at by a rugby coach in a sarong”.

    Hee hee. That’s… evocative, that is.

  2. Maureen Brian Avatar
    Maureen Brian

    He probably doesn’t know about Rousseau, him being one of the “hey, guys, civilisation started with ME” brigade.

  3. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Heh, Andrew, that made me laugh too.

  4. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    Since Peterson loves to categorize the world into Jungian archetypes (the devouring mother, the dragon-slaying hero), it’s worth noting that this tweet fits an age-old pattern: the hyper-masculine writer who is unhinged by critical words.

    For some reason, Jung failed to notice that one.

  5. Jeff Engel Avatar

    Apart from everything else wrong with that response, there’s the oddity of (apparently) treating “noble savage” literally rather than as a reference to a very familiar literary/philosophical trope originating with Rousseau. Mishra doesn’t mention Charles Joseph, so “That’s how you refer to my friend Charles Joseph?” is mystifying.

    In Mishra’s article, it follows:

    Peterson claims that he has been inducted into “the coastal Pacific Kwakwaka’wakw tribe”; he is clearly proud of the Native American longhouse he has built in his Toronto home.

    Apparently Peterson is willfully misunderstanding “noble savage” as a reference to Charles Joseph, for being (I take it?) the artist behind that longhouse. It suggests that Peterson is too angry to read sensibly, or is banking on his cult not knowing a thing about Rousseau so he can smear Mishra as a racist this way. So yeah – not mystifying, so much as grotesquely unfair or an indication that Peterson is a dangerously thin-skinned pseudo-intellectual eager to appeal to force and anger.

    And, well, when you’re all that, you’re not impressing anyone when you deny your fascism and then threaten to smack someone over it. Doc, you’ve got all the same fans as Richard Spencer for almost all the same reasons – the only places there aren’t overlap is where they don’t like you being coy about it.

  6. Seth Avatar

    At least Seth Rogen has done some good with his boorish fame—his Hilarity for Charity and other advocacy for Alzheimer’s disease (including giving self-aware, cogent congressional testimony that would likely put Peterson to shame) is more than a worthy cause.

  7. Omar Avatar

    I can see a new updated edition of Peterson’s 12 Rules for Life coming up, rebadged as 13 Rules for Life.

    Guess what Rule 13 might be.

    (Hint: it could well be based on this farcical fiasco.)

  8. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    @ 7 – Huh, I didn’t know that. Well done him. A credit to the Seths!

  9. Holms Avatar

    What has Seth Rogan done that was boorish? I only know him from his acting in movies I don’t watch.

  10. Alex SL Avatar

    Oh wow, those tweets certainly come across as those of a rational thinker who stands up tall with his shoulders back.

  11. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    …and his hair on fire.

  12. Seth Avatar

    Also, perhaps, his pants.

    Holms: Seth Rogen’s style of humour is undeniably juvenile and crude, and though I have certainly enjoyed it in doses, I don’t think calling it ‘boorish’ is too insulting. It’s about the only attribute I can think of that would liken him to Jordan Peterson, as well, who manages at once to be boorish *and* boring, with the comedy incidental and quite unintentional.

    Like most people, Rogen’s charity work is not entirely altruistic—he was made aware of the ravages of Alzheimer’s, and the general apathy of those who might shepherd a cure, by watching a close family member succumb to the disease. (His father in law, if memory serves.) But his work on the subject has done far more good for the world than Peterson’s whiny appeals to Patreon and his flimsy threats against people who don’t like him.

  13. John Wasson Avatar

    Would he enjoy the review of “12 Rules” in Private Eye (No. 1463, p. 32)?

    “His substantial new book is the work of many years’ serious thinking and aims to give rules for life for those people unlucky enough to have been born less intelligent than Prof Peterson, which is to say pretty much everyone. … It’s pretty much a hair shirt in book form. … In general, though, the book throbs with the dilithium-crystal-powered warp engines of Prof Peterson’s vast learning. …” (that’s enough, Ed)

    I haven’t read the book.

    A colleague, a woman whose analytical skills I respect, recommended one of his lectures (Jun 4, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7GKmznaqsQ). To me it seems in some respects Stoic and strives to be scientific. I’m ready to be corrected.

  14. Chris Tygesen Avatar
    Chris Tygesen

    Peterson claims that he has been inducted into “the coastal Pacific Kwakwaka’wakw tribe”

    Eeeyeah, not so fast https://thewalrus.ca/the-story-behind-jordan-petersons-indigenous-identity/

    If he really does choose his words carefully, then this claim doesn’t look so good on him.

  15. Omar Avatar

    I recommend the NYRB take on Peterson:

    Like Peterson, many… hyper-masculinist thinkers saw compassion as a vice and urged insecure men to harden their hearts against the weak (women and minorities) on the grounds that the latter were biologically and culturally inferior. Hailing myth and dreams as the repository of fundamental human truths, they became popular because they addressed a widely felt spiritual hunger: of men looking desperately for maps of meaning in a world they found opaque and uncontrollable.

    It was against this (eerily familiar) background—a “revolt against the modern world,” as the title of Evola’s 1934 book put it—that demagogues emerged so quickly in twentieth-century Europe and managed to exalt national and racial myths as the true source of individual and collective health. The drastic individual makeover demanded by the visionaries turned out to require a mass, coerced retreat from failed liberal modernity into an idealized traditional realm of myth and ritual.

    In the end, deskbound pedants and fantasists helped bring about, in Thomas Mann’s words in 1936, an extensive “moral devastation” with their “worship of the unconscious”—that “knows no values, no good or evil, no morality.” Nothing less than the foundations for knowledge and ethics, politics and science, collapsed, ultimately triggering the cataclysms of the twentieth century: two world wars, totalitarian regimes, and the Holocaust. It is no exaggeration to say that we are in the midst of a similar intellectual and moral breakdown, one that seems to presage a great calamity. Peterson calls it, correctly, “psychological and social dissolution.” But he is a disturbing symptom of the malaise to which he promises a cure.

    http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/19/jordan-peterson-and-fascist-mysticism/

    This resonates mightily IMHO with Trump’s “make America great again” slogan, which itself is a reference to the period between Hiroshima (1945) and the fall of Saigon (1975): only 30 years of American “greatness”, followed by over 40 years of apparent floundering, and of being overhauled economically by Japan and now Trump’s bete noir, China.

    But to his credit, Trump personally made a great contribution to the effort bring about an American victory in Vietnam. This he did by getting himself a series of draft deferments, and staying right out of the conflict.

  16. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    Omar, that’s the review Peterson is fuming about in the tweets of the OP.

  17. Omar Avatar

    Lady M:

    Right.

    Thanks