Big Endians v Little Endians
Ructions!
Oh no! Splitters! Where did it begin? This maybe?
Sad sad sad. Next you’ll see Mike Pence falling out with Donald Trump and then where will we be?
Or maybe this is where it started?
Who knows. Anyway it’s funny.
I mean, I know what he’s talking about, especially with point two. Refusing to recognize when you’re constructing the motte for someone’s bailey is seriously unhelpful. Ultimately, what James is describing is not something as insidious sounding as “crypto-woke”. Instead, it is bias: bias toward helping the aggrieved. Honestly, being biased in that direction is a good thing.
However, what we actually have is not mere bias. We are dealing with a naive and fixed bias, a bias whose aim does not correct in response to new data. Thus the trans population is marked ‘oppressed’, and that label cannot be removed. It is permanently affixed, even should data and argument demonstrate that the mark was placed erroneously.
Nullius, isn’t that why the definitions of ‘trans’ and associated words remain so fluid? By not fixing a definition then they can justify attaching any label they wish to use while rejecting the labels that others might try to impose on them by doing nothing more than adding or removing a part of a word’s definition (woman: remove ‘adult human female’: add ‘man who identifies as’), rinsing and repeating as necessary.
Well, yeah. Doublespeak’s a rather significant component of the trans lobby’s rhetorical strategy. I was thinking more of the way that “well intentioned normies” react to the doublespeak. Not the person who’s always online and really tuned into the topic, but rather the ones who are only vaguely aware of it. The ones whose only contact with it is through some talking head on MSNBC who says that women’s sports is just a conservative talking point based in bigotry.
@ Nullius, I think we have two biases working in concert: bias towards helping the aggrieved (good), and bias towards favouring males (pretty standard, but utterly unhelpful to women). I believe it is the action of these two biases working together that produces the effect you describe, that of being impervious to new information or data. This is simply the New Patriarchy, it’s just that we’re supposed to sympathise with this one and help it, even to our own detriment.
I thought I made a comment, perhaps I failed to hit submit? Anyway…
@ Nullius, I think we have two biases interacting with each other, hence why it’s not responding to new data.
The first bias is to help the aggrieved (which trans are, and we are told firmly that they ALL are). The second is standard issue patriarchy, that biases to benefit males – elevate their voices, gift them credibility and standing and so on.
This means that when group one (trans) acts with the power of the second (patriarchy), this is dismissed as reasonable actions by an aggrieved people, while GC women acting to protect themselves fails on both counts (being neither trans nor supported by patriarchy).
It’s simply a new iteration of the patriarchy that we are not permitted to notice, name, or act against.
I see both but they’re not identical so…
First one must of been on some sort of delay?
Arcadia, sometimes when I submit a comment here, my Firefox browser fails to display it added to the page, even when I Reload the current page (⌘R on macOS).
So I check loading the page in another browser (e.g. Opera on macOS), and I see my comment did post. Then I double check reloading the page in Firefox (⌘R), and it still fails to display.
I see that as my Firefox getting stuck in some state (not a delay). I can Quit Firefox (⌘Q), restart Firefox, load the page, and see my comment posted.
I’m using a recent iPad, and Chrome for my browser, but technology and I are not great friends in any case.
I’m pretty sure I submitted my comment, went away, returned later (hence the time between them) with a reloaded page and I didn’t see it. *shrugs*
Arcadia:
I shouldn’t expect consistent behaviour from WordPress. It behaves how it wants and is largely mystifying. If I find out it gained malevolent sentience about five years ago, I won’t be surprised.
Why do you think the preview button went away? There are two options:
1. Ophelia took it away because she hates us
2. WordPress gained sentience and took it away to fuck with us.
I agree that both scenarios are quite likely, but having worked with WordPress I would argue that 2 is the more probable by a narrow margin.
For one thing – additional to the above – I’m fairly sure I didn’t put the capital P in the middle of “WordPress” in my last post.
Either it put it in there itself to gaslight me, or I’m now gaslighting myself because I’m so suspicious of its past behaviour.
DO YOU SEE HOW IT MESSES WITH US!!!!
Arcadia, I think there is a third bias that is combining with the other two to make it even more pernicious: the bias of females as caring, nurturing, and self-sacrificing. For a woman allied with trans, it certainly requires a lot of the last; whether they have the first or not, I don’t know, since I see little true caring or nurturing in the trans allies, but I suspect they believe they are very much that.
Without that bias, I’m not sure the other two would have gained as much traction on this issue.
Absolutely, iknklast. “Be kind” would never have gained traction and the sheer weight it has if it were principally applied to men, not women. First the patriarchy socialises us, then it deploys our socialisation against our interests.