Guest post: A New Zealand riposte
Originally a comment by Rob on Give a New Zealand welcome.
First, not a ******* NZ welcome, the trans lobby can own that one all to themselves.
Second, advocating violence.
Third, The haka is not about intimidation, it is about honour and honouring.*
Fourth, to use the haka in the way he advocates would do both sides great dishonour and back in the day would be grounds for war.
Fifth, is a white English bloke really suggesting that white Irish and English (presumably) people appropriate the culture of brown Maori from the other side of the planet for their own nefarious purposes? Because if he is (he is), there are a lot of people who’d like to have a word with him about that.
No matter how he tries to spin that, he’s just disgustingly wrong from one end to the other.
* Haka and how they are used is a lot more complex than I can cover here, plus I’m not expert in the nuances and it’s not my culture to be definitive about. In modern use the most common haka we see are a challenge to an honoured foe, or a welcome (combined with a challenge) to an honoured guest. Traditionally one type of haka was used to prepare warriors psychologically and physically for battle. Haka are the cultural property of the particular family/grouping/tribe that used or developed that haka. The best known of them all is undoubtedly Ka Mate. The use of this Haka by the All Blacks rugby team resulted in most New Zealanders being able to have a crack at performing it (often badly) and many non-NZers and even companies using it. As a result the Iwi (tribe), Ngati Toa, that the composer came from took a legal challenge to demonstrate ownership.
Thanks Ophelia. I should add that I’ve seen reports that Stephen Whittle is actually a trans identified female. No idea if that’s actually the case and still doesn’t excuse anything they’ve said.
That’s true, Rob.
Whittling away at women’s rights, whatever gender he claims to belong to.
Yes, Stephen Whittle is a woman.
Stephen Whittle was for many years one of the most active and committed campaigners on behalf of ‘transsexual’ people. Whittle originally self-described as a lesbian but began presenting as male in the mid-seventies. An academic lawyer, Whittle reportedly helped to draft the Gender Recognition Act 2004. Among other things, the Act legitimated marriage between two people of the same sex so long as one of them had ‘reassigned their gender’ and held a gender recognition certificate. The Act became law in 2005. Reportedly Whittle and partner were the first couple to marry under this legislation.
I’ll leave this here, just for the record. The man who hit the Auckland granny at KJK’s attempted talk has been arrested and charged with assault. He’s also been granted name suppression. God knows why other than that he might be afraid that someone will do to him what he did to an old woman. Highly unlikely that gender critical woman are going to do that of course, it’s not their style, unlike the trans lobby. Still, a lot of the general public were pretty disgusted despite the medias efforts to hide that it happened at all.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300857738/man-accused-of-hitting-woman-at-posie-parker-protest-receives-name-suppression
Jeezus, really?
Good that he’s been charged though.
I can see the reason for name suppression in some cases. I think NZ Courts use it far too much though.