Why if it isn’t secession time again
Republican Representative from Georgia.
A national divorce is it. Like the one Georgia and South Carolina attempted in 1860? That went well.
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Republican Representative from Georgia.
A national divorce is it. Like the one Georgia and South Carolina attempted in 1860? That went well.
That conflict has never been over.
If ever she wants to sign up for a lobotomy I’d buy tickets to the operating theater…
“We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government.”
That sounds like a good idea. And we can shrink the federal budget by eliminating the subsidy that the blue states pay to support the red states.
I wonder — has MTG just committed political suicide?
I’ve never been a fan of the “blue states subsidizing the red states” meme. Isn’t the point of such spending to help lower income Americans, which have a greater presence in the SOUTH (I wonder if this is true of Georgia, though? Atlanta is a bit of an economic powerhouse?)
Except that isn’t how it works. As one of the red recipient states, I can tell you it isn’t going to lower income, it’s going the same place everything else goes – higher income. The farmers, the ranchers, the oil men, the business men. It may be that the point was to help lower income Americans – back in the time of FDR – but other than that, it never has been for that purpose. The money flows to grease the wheels of the political bus, so the politicians can keep riding. And southern states have been remarkably adept at driving that bus toward their state, while making sure it doesn’t go to the poor – who are often people of color.
Meanwhile, the politicians in these states (including the Midwest, not just the south) are urging voters to drown the federal government in the bathtub. The voters in these states are eager to do that, because the government has never done anything for them. Which is completely untrue. Briefly, in 2008, our politicians were marginally honest. While everyone else was in a recession, our economy was pretty strong – because of all the Big Ag money flooding in from the government. Yeah, we had some people out of work. Yeah, we had poor and hungry (Jesus tells us those will always be with us; he was kind of a bastard sometimes). But the money didn’t go to help create jobs or feed the hungry or house the homeless. It lined deep pockets with a lining of gold. As always.
They leave the feeding and housing up to the churches; as for jobs, they figure if someone doesn’t have a job, it’s just because they don’t want to work.
And the blue states subsidize all this wealth generation, leaving them their own hungry and homeless to deal with. It’s a valid meme.
Red states should be careful what they wish for.
Oldie but goodie
Dear Red States…
https://newyork.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/80714812.html
Even thinking that the divide is by “Red State/Blue State” is an inaccurate portrayal of where we part ways on social and economic issues. It’s more like “Blue County/Red County.” Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan have long been thought of as Blue states because of the presidential votes, but when reviewing the maps by county the tendency is for rural counties to be red and urban counties to be blue. SImilar in Texas and Arizona. There are actual living and breathing liberals in Texas who are barely a minority but because of gerrymandering can’t win the legislature.
Secessionists will never give up. But they’ll never be able to come up with a clean line to draw a new country from the old one.
Aaron Rupar on Twitter is reporting MTG wants to be Trump’s VP. He starts off suggesting that might put off the percentage of Republican voters who are not that far gone, and then says… ah, never mind, great idea.
She was complaining the other day about how much work she has to do as a member of Congress. It all seems like a great idea at the time to her.
I’d prefer to forcefully integrate the population of rural counties into urban ones to socialize the barbarians a bit but that comes with its own challenges…
iknklast,
Technically he was always a bastard (though in the end his father recognized him).
Reminds me of this silliness. >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)
maddog1129 #1
“That conflict has never been over.”
For a detailed analysis of that see:
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2014/09/phases-of-american-civil-war.html
iknklast: Good points. Not sure what the answer is given the entrenched realities of the semi feudal South, Sadly part of the deindustrialization of the North and Midwest is due to chasing cheaper labor in the South. How many new automobile assembly plants have been built in Michigan the last two decades? They are all in South Carolina and Alabama and Tennessee. They avoid that pesky UAW that way, of course.
twiliter: In addition to the racism and rural prejudices, I see the State of Jefferson as largely driven by the desire to dam and chop and mine and drain with no limits. As well as those cultural issues. Those pesky city dwellers don’t understand we need ALL the water and ALL the redwoods and who cares about pesticide contamination and mine tailings??? Plus, a separate state would give more influence to such cultish, crazy churches as Bethel (whose music minister didn’t surrender the corpse of his deceased infant son for two weeks because he thought he could pray it back to life)
Exactly. I lived somewhat proximate to there during one of the resurrections of the proposal in the 90’s. I remember thinking how ludicrously gerrymandering it was. The proposal gains popularity from time to time. I don’t think people who haven’t lived in California realize the depths of redneckery in the rural areas there, but it’s not that surprising with MTG’s running around, she being rural Georgia’s example. I was immersed in it. Rush Limbaugh became popular at a radio station in Sacramento, where he eventually became syndicated, leading to his national notoriety, if that’s any indicator.