Relating to coercive behavior
Yes, yes they would. Next question?
Parents are allowed to talk about gender identity, but they are of course not allowed to say it’s not a real thing. It’s like the church. Parents are allowed to talk about the religion, but they’re not allowed to say it’s bullshit.
Furthermore parents will be jailed for seven years only in the case of coercive behavior, like telling their sons they’re boys and can’t change themselves into girls.
How very liberal.
“Would parents be jailed if they ‘refused to allow their children to change gender’?”
“Well, no, only in the most extreme situations, such as if they refused to allow their children to change gender.”
Are they allowed to suggest the wearing of gumboots while wading through the said bullshit? Or through any bovine excreta at all.?
As parents and educators cannot avoid the encouragement of critical thinking about everything, from the lofty heights of art and science down to how to avoid being short-changed by shopkeepers, this boils down to an attack on the foundations of education itself..
I wonder what the Greek philosophers and sculptors would have made of it.? Are there any differences between males and females, dogs and cats etc, or is the world a total illusion.?
It’s a tough one.
Since “changing gender” doesn’t really mean anything, how can one prevent it? If you are “assigned sex at birth,” but you are born with an inherent, inalienable gender, then it never changes, so you can’t prevent it changing. For example, once upon a time, in a deleted universe, there was an actress named Ellen Page, but in our more valid universe you can see that a fellow named Elliot Page has credits for Juno, where he played a pregnant girl, and Hard Candy, where he played a 14-year old female vigilante. Because he was always Elliot, he never changed gender. He played those roles as a remarkably talented young lad.
In the case of a young girl who was assigned male at birth, a similar rule holds: she is already a girl, and she doesn’t need to do anything in particular to prove that. We are informed by many transwomen that having a penis does not mean they’re not a woman – it’s a “ladydick.” So preventing a child from having genital surgery isn’t preventing her from changing or expressing gender. Many transwomen are balding and bearded, but they’re still women, so preventing a child from taking puberty blockers or female hormones is not preventing her from changing or expressing gender. Some women, trans or otherwise, even wear clothes typical of men on a daily basis, so preventing a child from wearing women’s clothes isn’t preventing her from changing or expressing gender. Some women go by names that are more typical of men, like Freddy or Jack, so preventing a child from taking on a typically female name is not preventing her from changing or expressing gender.
As long as a woman can look like anything, have any body, and be called anything, no restriction in dress, address, or medical treatment can prevent, define, or change a child’s gender. Parents should feel free to uphold whatever rules they prefer, with no worries that they can be misinterpreted as attempts to suppress or change a child’s gender.
@Papito #3
Well played! Taking genderists at their word shows both the incoherence of their world view (if you care to actually dignify it as such), and shows how they want things both ways. “Gender identity” is an invisible, immaterial, innate, fundamental, unvarying, internal sense of self, and we have to carve your body up to produce some vague, non-functioning, visual resemblance to the physical appearance of the “opposite” sexed, material husk we’re otherwise supposed to ignore.
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