Originally a comment by Your Name’s not Bruce? on With the gender-critical crowd.

The problem is, they are getting crazier and more extreme.

You’d think that an adherent of a delusional, reality-denying belief system that relies on bullying and intimidation would be more circumspect about tossing out charges of insanity and militancy, but whatever. DARVO’s gonna DARV. Maybe he can’t help it. His “crazy and extreme” meter likely broke in the same event that had it indicating “misgendering” as “actual violence, ” so its measurements can’t be relied upon. Still, the self-blindness is hard to swallow. As if men demanding (and being given!) access to women’s spaces was not crazy and extreme. Kafka would have packed up and gone home if he’d lived to see this unbelievable level of absurdity play out in real life. What would he have had left to write about?

If you admit “trans women don’t belong in women’s sports” they agree, but call you a man the whole time.

And? You are a man. Next?

If you admit, “I understand I am a biological man, but this is how I want to live my life and talking about me like this is degrading”….

No, you clearly don’t understand or accept this, otherwise you’d have no problem with women accurately sexing you. What’s more, their right to call you a man (because “biological male”) is not contingent upon your understanding and acceptance of anything. They get to ignore your supposed “gender identity” and point out the material reality of your sex, particularly because you mistakenly and maliciously believe the former takes precedence over the latter, and are eager to punish them for not acceding to your demand that they submit to it.

If you admit that hurtful language is part of free speech but you don’t have to associate with people that degrade you, they act like the victim and call you a man and then say you should be thrown in an insane asylum.

Never mind the rape and death threats that your side has made against them. Women, in being forced to accept men into their spaces, were not allowed to dissociate from people like you who degraded them. That is the whole point of gender ideology, to force women to accept the presence of men without complaint. Part of the complaint against Nurse Peggie was that she left every time Dr. Upton came into the women’s changing room. Attempts to remove herself from a situation which she felt unsafe was part of the supposed crime she was being charged with. She was supposed to stay, to her own discomfort and detriment, in order to “affirm” Upton’s notional “womanhood.” Peggie (and all the other women and girls forced to accept male intrusion into female only spaces) weren’t “playing the victim”, they were victims. Their resistance was criminalized, and they were persecuted and prosecuted by the state for not bowing to the misogynistic, insane demand to accept TiMs as “other women.”

It’s like this on everything. They are incapable of looking for a middle ground on bathrooms. They want maximalist policies on everything.

If expecting women to accept the intrusion of any and all men into their spaces, at any place and time of the man’s choosing, solely on the man’s claimed “gender identity” isn’t a “maximalist policy”, I don’t know what is. Women have no need to accept any “middle ground” on this whatsoever, as there is no middle ground. It’s no different from expecting women athletes to put up with just a little bit of cheating or injury at the hands of male athletes. But I guess it’s only natural for an arsonist to complain if his victim refuses to let him burn down at least half of their home. If these guys were at all consistent, they would, like Trump, be backing Putin’s demand to retain Ukrainian territory that it has taken by force.

I want a middle ground on so many of these polices. BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS THEY DO NOT. They enjoy degrading us, it’s fun for them.

He stands in front of the funhouse mirror, gurning and capering, but refuses to admit that the reflection he sees is his.