One bit of cheerful news:
“They” being the College of Charleston.
You’re welcome. We’re absolutely excited to see you gtfo.
Whatever. Bye.
He’s not really a world champion athlete. He cheated.
We’ll be happy too!
Good. Good good good. Bye now.
One bit of cheerful news:
“They” being the College of Charleston.
You’re welcome. We’re absolutely excited to see you gtfo.
Whatever. Bye.
He’s not really a world champion athlete. He cheated.
We’ll be happy too!
Good. Good good good. Bye now.
Comments
47 responses to “They “accepted” his “resignation””
Tough luck for Canada. I wonder whose life he’s going to make miserable next. I’d also love to see his list of ‘conditions.’
Yeah, my therapist says I need to leave my job for mental health reasons too; so what? I will retire in a couple of years, and they will accept my retirement, and all my conditions, which will basically be that I get to leave with all my own stuff. And don’t have to see them anymore.
Funny how he doesn’t say what his “conditions” were. I’m guessing any “conditions” were coming more from them than from him, and he mostly quit under the condition that they don’t go around telling people how awful he is. They said, hey get the hell out, and we won’t tell anyone we ever even knew you. Good bye, don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
There was a time when I would have said Canada doesn’t deserve such a horrible shit, but these days, I think he is just what they deserve.
Hey, South Carolina just called, they said “fuck you too, asshole.” :D
This was a job, not slavery. She could have bought a ticket and flown back to Canada at any time. She didn’t have to wait for a resignation to be accepted. Sure, there could be legal issues, but if you’re not going to survive much longer, as she’s been framing it (aside from a short reference to having terms she wanted met), if it’s that desperate, then she’d just leave. Especially since she’s going to another country and doesn’t intend to return to the US. They’re not going to extradite her for breaking her professor’s contract.
So, yeah, as Ophelia implies sounds more like a termination.
@4 She? I’m not sure anyone could look at a picture of that asshole and call him ‘she.’
lol Skeletor the everything skeptic – do you think you made yourself enough opportunities to Use The Pronouns? I count 8 in that one short paragraph.
The guy is at best a bully who cheats women out of racing medals. I see zero reason to take his word for it that he really considers himself a woman.
Canada’s loss is our gain.
“And my thesis is entitled Reasonable Assertions: On Norms of Assertion and Why You Don’t Need to Know What You’re Talking About.” But you can totally believe me on this. Really.”
“Activist for women athlete rights?” If he were, he wouldn’t taking a woman’s place in cycling competitions.
I have never felt safe here in Charleston
Charleston is actually pretty darned friendly to LGTBQ people. Was Ivy simply too big of an asshole to get along with Charleston’s LGBTQ community?
And at worst?
More like “I’m an advocate for transwomen usurping women’s rights”. Not that I’ve followed his activity closely, but I would be surprised indeed if he did anything to promote the rights of women, rather than promote the rights of transwomen over the rights of women.
Tangent, but: “at worst” implies to my mind that this is the worst scenario you could expect, and in all likelihood the situation is better. A lower bound, in the way that “at best” is an upper bound. For instance, “Try it; at worst it won’t taste good and you won’t order it again, no harm done.” People seem to use it sometimes in combination with “at best” in a way that doesn’t make sense to me. Something like “At best he’s joking; at worst he’s a fraud.” I think they mean “At best he’s joking, but it’s more likely (or it’s entirely possible or less charitably or something like that) he’s a fraud”.
It was only, what? two or three days ago that he was looking for an American to marry to keep his newly-jobless arse in America: Now he can’t leave quickly enough. One could almost imagine a friendly call from an Immigration official pointing out the potential legal implications of that ill-thought tweet – were he to delay his exit, that is.
And this cracked me up:
Like expecting him to actually do his job? And how like every bully ever to suddenly become the victim when somebody refuses to smell his shit, crying that they’re exacerbating his disability when he’s spent the last God-knows how many years bullying, threatening, insulting and stealing from women.
Ah well, America’s loss is Canada’s…er…loss.
I wonder how poor Yaniv is feeling now that he’ll have competition to be the most repulsive Canadian in Canada?
I mean, he published his performance appraisal a while back, presumably thinking everyone would exclaim over his shocking treatment. I read it and thought, they’re letting him get away with a rehashed and non-peer reviewed version of a 1-2 year old paper, bare minimum teaching and absolutely no other contribution to or involvement in the life of the department or college. Presumably with all the rest of his time he’s training, competing and bitching online about how hard done by he is. Can I have his job. I mean, the appraisal was the lightest of spankings for what amounted to him blowing his job off. If he wanted the job he should have done what every other professor (tenure or not) does, which is attend most departmental meetings, take part in one or more committees, organise some relevant departmental shit, sponsor some sort of club or activity and fucking do some peer reviewed and published work.
Even if he wasn’t the arse that he is, I’d still have no sympathy for him being on the wrong side of an employment dispute. I’m just surprised at how lightly he was treated.
At worst? Who knows. How much if anything did he know about the alleged activities of his partner?
My question is… What fucking disability? He’s a cyclist, so it ain’t physical. He’s supposedly an academic so it ain’t cognitive. I’m autistic and chronically anxious and I’m not disabled.
So what is it? Being a giant prick?
Conditions on resignation? Eh? Like, “Accept my resignation, or I’ll resign?”
I don’t understand.
I presume the meaning is actually “They agreed to waive some of my contractual obligations”; but that’s not the same by a long shot.
Nobody who resigns of their own accord needs to explicitly state so often that it was totally, totally their own decision.
Enzyme:
That and “we won’t tell anyone we sacked you if you leave the building right now and don’t come back.” I can’t think of anything else.
Blood Knight:
He says he as PTSD, I assume he means that.
Actually, Enzyme, I was being flippant there. A more accurate account of my reading between the lines would be that they agreed to some sort of package (pay? pension? agreeing not to say they sacked him?) if he agreed to go quietly and not cause a fuss or try to take them to an employment tribunal or something.
Anybody need a slightly used professor of ethics?
Yeah, dude got sacked. Probably for not doing the job they were paying him to do. He’s made it very clear that his sense of victimization and privilege is everything, and his sense of responsibility and obligation is nothing. Why work? It’s just an imposition from The Man, so unfair given his… disability? Is narcissism a disability?
Hmm, I wonder what the reaction in the TRA world? Turn him into a martyr (victim of being fired)? But that would go against his own narrative that he resigned! Hmm. Maybe have it both ways? He resigned, because he’s always in control and who wouldn’t want a transwoman athletic champion in women’s cycling as faculty in their college, but at the same time he was fired and is a victim? Or something?
Hmm. A quick Google search seems to suggest that mostly the TRAs ignore his existence; he seems to come up mostly on Gender Critical websites.
Had to search a little, but here is the performance review for the Professor:
https://archive.md/mwiDP
You can clearly see the martyrdom storyline being built tweet by tweet. In the not very distant future, Ivy will be humblebragging about alllllll that sweet tenure he gave up – voluntarily! – to commit himself to trans activism.
That is a remarkably bad review. How gratifying. It’s clear the cyclepath didn’t remotely meet the modest standards of the college.
Would it be irresponsible to speculate that Ivy is giving up a cushy job and fleeing the country because something unsavory was going on with Ivy at the College of Charleston? Or would it be irresponsible not to speculate?
At any rate, as a native South Carolinian who realizes that this state has quite a few issues, I’m glad the state now at least has has one less issue.
ARC, I should note here that South Carolina did not make my top 10 list of worst states to live in (which I made only last night), so there are at least 10 states worse, anyway. At least in my opinion. And since we were only doing 10, I had to leave off some contenders that would have been before South Carolina.
For me, though, living in South Carolina would not be desirable since I am not one who likes that climate. I have no idea if the people are nice, or the place is good to live. If you moved it to a northern climate, I might be willing to give it a try.
I think they probably finally got around to doing Due Dilligence on someone they’d already hired. The posted bio is rather different than the “activist” we know:
https://philosophy.cofc.edu/faculty-staff-listing/ivy-veronica.php
Another reason: Because they offered him a job. I’m sure there weren’t lots of other places offering him jobs at the same time.
Ugh. I love huskies; do they now have to have this yucky association?
Not cycling? Hmm.
Based on that performance review, I’m guessing his class was popular among non-majors–not too much writing, no difficult reading, easy A as long as you don’t challenge his ideology. But not attending any faculty meetings? I’d think that alone would be grounds for dismissal.
For me, though, living in South Carolina would not be desirable since I am not one who likes that climate. I have no idea if the people are nice, or the place is good to live. If you moved it to a northern climate, I might be willing to give it a try.
You’ve got to like it to be warm most of the time and to not mind it to be humid in the summer. But yeah … if you’re into cooler climates and enjoy things like snow and skiing, then this is probably not the place.
Now if you’re into beaches, we’ve got you covered. Just ask anyone from Ohio … the entire state comes down here for summer vacation. :)
GW:
I feel your pain, I’m quite fond of Dan Dennett.
Rob @ 13 – yes, the question of how much he knew about those alleged activities hovers in the background.
At first I thought you were being mean to me, but I kind of like that title, so…thanks?
Normally I try to avoid pronouns at all in situations like this, but it seemed easier in this case than to keep saying “Ivy” or whatever.
I’m in the camp of if someone wants to be a “she” or a “he” then I will go along with that to be polite. Bathrooms and sports and areas where it infringes on women’s rights are another matter.
Gun to my head, I think Veronica Ivy considers herself (sorry) a woman and steamrolling “cis” women in bike races is just an additional benefit.
Of all the men I know, exactly 0% of them would consider competing in women’s sports even if it guaranteed them money, fame, and medals. But I could be wrong, and Veronica Ivy could be the rare man that fits that description.
At my job we still laugh about an email someone sent maybe 10 years ago in which they informed us that they had “voluntarily resigned”, which nobody who has voluntarily resigned has ever said. It became a sarcastic euphemism for getting fired (“Fred’s gone? Huh. Did he ‘voluntarily resign’ suddenly?”).
No I didn’t intend it meanly – a little bit mockingly, but I guess I don’t think of that as mean since you surely know by now that I think you nitpick a lot, or used to.
I get it about being polite, but the reason I think it’s too much politeness in this case is that using the pronouns influences how we think about the subject, just as it’s intended to. Refer to McKinnon as “her” and you start to think of him as “her.” I think we need to resist that conditioning along with the demands that we let ourselves be conditioned that way.
I don’t know why you think it would be rare. Sport is full of people who are prepared to cheat, which is why it has drug testing, match/race fixing investigations and so on. We know that people have forged entire careers to gain access to vulnerable people, taken drugs to enhance performance and bribes to throw games. Why would wearing a bit of lipstick every now and then be a step too far?
I don’t know any men who would do it either, but since I don’t know any athletes, that doesn’t get us very far.
Yes, the whole “pronouns are rohypnol” thing. And since when was McKinnon deserving of politeness from anyone?
And that’s all he does. It’s so minimal it looks like taunting, and probably is – he has a taunting personality. It’s tricky to talk about though, because it’s not as if I think making more of an effort=actually being a woman.
I use the Trans-favored pronouns as a courtesy when dealing directly with them and in many social situations; I use them pragmatically in serious discussions on the topic where not using them will derail the discussion. But when talking about transgenderism as a topic, or when among the GC, I usually don’t. And being an asshole might strip them off in the first two situations.
My daughter lived in Charleston SC for many years. It’s a beautiful, cosmopolitan city with a lot of history, great food, an active night life, and a nice liberal sector. It’s also got hurricanes, heat, high housing costs, and giant bugs — and it’s in South Carolina.
I am now curious about your list.
I will float a conjecture that any “10 worst states to live” list created by someone not from Alabama or Mississippi includes Alabama and Mississippi.
It’s also got hurricanes, heat, high housing costs, and giant bugs
People think SC is named “The Palmetto State” after the tree. SC natives will tell you it’s really named after the palmetto bug. Because who doesn’t love giant roaches?
Charleston had the the big one back in 1989 … Hugo … which was big enough to rip the roof off my house (and at the time I lived about an hour and a half drive from Charleston). It’s been relatively calm on the massive hurricane front since, but it’s an easily flooded area even without the hurricanes.
Still happy that Charleston now has one less giant asshole now that Ivy is flouncing, though!
You did manage to figure out my top two…but since Nebraska also made my list, I’m not sure it has anything to do with not being from there. Though, to be fair, I am not “from” Nebraska, either, but a late life transplant. I also don’t consider myself to be “from” Oklahoma, though I spent most of my adult life there, and my teen years. The idea of being “from” anywhere is odd to me, since my dad being in the Navy meant we moved around a lot, and I don’t even remember where I was born at all. But Nebraska is the only state I’ve ever lived in that made my list.
I think Mississippi would have to get the top spot on my list, simply because of the nightmare recentish history – because of Emmett Till, and Chaney, Schwerner and Goodman, and Parchman Farm, and all the rest of it.
Mostly though it’s the plains states I think I would hate most for anything more than a visit. I like rain and trees and frivolities like that.
My reasoning was the reverse: that nobody other than people from those places would leave them off. A lot of people from those places would also put them on such lists.
(I live in Alabama, and it would show up on my list, but I’m not “from” Alabama; I didn’t grow up here and I spent much longer periods of time in other places.)
Yes, I definitely feel that. My husband and I have recently been involved in a long discussion about retirement venues. He has always planned to stay in the plains, and it has long been a dream of mine to exit the plains before I die. The idea of spending my retirement in this place, with no salt air and few trees, is suffocating.
I had to be dragged to the plains by my parents; I’ve been trying to get out ever since, but somehow something always goes wrong. Now I can retire at any time, and plan to in 2 years. No plains…no south. I’m headed for the coast, and if my husband wants to stay in the plains, he is welcome to visit me often.
@ BKSA #14:
My question, too. In what way is he even remotely “disabled”? Other than not having a conscience.
@Sackbut #11:
Yes, i.e., NOT an expert or activist for WOMEN athletes’ rights, at all. Liar. Hypocrite. Exactly what you’d expect from a brazen cheater.
Mid April, should be about to execute …
He mentioned he’s leaving May 15th. If I were CoC I would be so tempted to make him go early, as in now.