According to her profile this person does standup comedy.
Entire thing? No verbal humor? No ideas, just physical shtick?
No interest?
That time I went to a bookstore event with Michael Palin someone asked him about that debate. (In other clips you can see him on Cleese’s left.) He got quite serious, and said it was one of the very few times he got really angry. Muggeridge was aggressively dishonest, and it pissed him (and Cleese) off.
So, yeah. Not “safer” comedy at all, and not purely physical comedy either. Utterly stupid and ignorant claims.
Updating to add: Ooh she replied to my tweet telling her some facts. Really sharp stuff.
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I think you misread her earlier tweet. I think you saw “I’ve seen everything Monty python made besides probably some of the flying circuses…” as something like “I’ve not seen much Monty python besides probably some of the flying circuses…”. You were making the point that Kath appears to have missed plenty of what Python did in their other work, which you believed she had not seen.
But this only means Kath’s intellectual laziness is worse than what you thought. If Kath has seen virtually all things Python, how the fuck can she arrive at the conclusion that Cleese’s comedy is nothing more than physical slapstick?
“Cry about” what, exactly. It wasn’t a complaint, it was you calling her on her ignorance.
Holms, no, I read her as saying “I’ve seen everything Monty python made, as well as probably some of the flying circuses.”
Mike, that’s what I told her. Not crying, telling you you’re ignorant & stupid.
An unkind response, but at least it’s truthful, unlike what she said about Cleese.
I told her off, too. I seem to have been doing it all day.
Telling lots of people off, I mean, not just her.
I have linked to this Python-sketch before, but a good thing cannot be repeated too often. Trans mice are mice!
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y1jou
Cleese is the most amazing straight man, which, as comedians will tell you, is one of the more difficult and valued roles in comedy.
ob. Python https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8I5TtNfjBI&t=9s
I can understand what Cleese is saying, but then I am an old white male, so I should probably shut up and go home and drink my warm milk.
Kindness has its limits, but I don’t see the value nor the necessity in remaining kind to people who reply with petulance and greater demands, nor to people who make increasingly ludicrous demands on how to express your “kindness.” If kindness means “no debate,” or “don’t challenge my ideas” then the person making the demands isn’t requesting kindness, they are instead bullying.
And Jolyon here reminds me of any white people who make fun of white people and use the slang “wypipo” to refer to OTHER white people because they’re in on it with black people. They’re “honorary” black people, if you will.
I think Kath’s grammar is worse than anyone thought, because I interpreted this as “I’ve seen everything Monty Python made, with the probable exception of some of the Flying Circuses.”
Who’s to say? It’s a spectrum.
@Steven – yes, his gentlemanly Englishman expressionlessness is brilliantly funny.
Since when is Life of Brian obscure? Or did the Pythons do nothing but the Holy Grail as far as the public is concerned?
Oh yes, Sastra’s version could be what Kath meant.
Really not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Like, Dog! You’re entire thing is finding a chance to call someone TERF. (Another impudent creep among many.)
Moderation? Must have made an e-mail error…
I can’t see any email error – oh wait yes I can. Misspelled your name, heh.
Too much twitter ranting, obviously. ;)
The names are PRACTICALLY THE SAME.
I don’t get what Michael Albright is trying to say.
This. It is not possible. 45 TV episodes (“flying circuses”, really?), five films. To say nothing of the work Cleese has done outside of Monty Python.
My guess, in addition to the likelihood that she hasn’t seen nearly as much of Monty Python’s work and Cleese’s work as she claims, is that she only remembers a few sketches with Cleese and thinks everything he ever did was like those.
Dead Parrot. Cheese Shop. How to Defend Yourself Against Fresh Fruit. Black Knight. Castle Guard.
Just off the top of my head.
From the comment “move body in strange ways,” it seems to me she’s only seen “Ministry of Silly Walks.”
That and perhaps the one about the Masonic handshakes. The many, many sketches that do not involve physical comedy at all seem to have been forgotten, or at least Cleese’s presence in them is forgotten.
Come on, stop questioning her. She didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition.
Besides, what’s wrong with physical comedy? She doesn’t think that (good) physical comedy requires astute observation, empathy, timing? How does that make one less qualified to discuss cancel culture than, say, a stand up nobody has heard of and who wasn’t asked anyway?
The Ministry of Silly Walks worked because of its absurdity. It was a sort of surrealist satire. It was poking fun at establishment: both the British political establishment and the comedy establishment.
If all Barbadoro got from it was a man doing a silly walk, then she was really not paying attention.
Re the Spanish Inquisition sketch, there was a very interesting bit of historical research about the effects of the Spanish Inquisition that still reverberate today. A summary article makes liberal use of references to the sketch. Even the title says “Expecting the Spanish Inquisition”.
A Friendly Atheist article has some more details from the report that might be interesting.