I may be confusing Willoughby for some other TRA, but I’m pretty sure he’s said something similar to that before. Not surprisingly, even with all his overly performative attempts at acting out how he imagines upper-middle class entitled white women behave, he still doesn’t come across as a woman, let alone as convincingly as JKR, or pretty much any other woman.
GW
How does this work? Are there levels of womanhood, according to his ideology? In the top level are the women who rape, and in the bottom level are the women who get raped?
Screechy Monkey
GW, I believe it’s a complex math formula that factors in length of hair, frequency of manicures, and degree of head tilt, among other things.
iknklast
I believe it’s a complex math formula that factors in length of hair, frequency of manicures, and degree of head tilt, among other things.
I might be able to pass on length of hair, but the rest, I guess I’m just a lesser woman. My hair is at least as long as his, but I don’t go to the hairdresser, or have manicures, and tilting my head for very long makes my neck ache.
J.A.
I think Dustin Hoffman was a better woman than either of them and a far better actor too.
“I was a better man with you as a woman than I ever was with a woman as a man.” Tootsie (1982)
Contrast IW’s statement.
Re #1, yes, IW and many other people have made similar comments before. I’ve mentioned a woman I know who said “You’re a better woman than I am” to a drag queen, a man who pretends to be a woman part of the time.
Rob
Citation needed. Love it.
Freemage
And, of course, this absolutely puts paid to the TRA non-definition of a woman = “Any person who claims to be a woman”, since of course, JKR would certainly make such a claim. So it’s not only vainglorious, narcissistic and insulting–it’s also a magnificent own goal.
What a Maroon
Or, as someone in the comments said, “an Owen goal”.
iknklast
Freemage, I don’t get it. Are you using sarcasm, or meaning to say JKR would never make such a claim?
twiliter
Women don’t generally make comparisons like that, insecure men do.
Freemage
iknklast: I’m saying that JKR certainly regards herself as a woman, which under the loosey-goosey TRA definition, absolutely makes her a woman, no questions asked.
The only way it would be POSSIBLE for India to somehow be ‘more of a woman’ than JKR is for there to be some secret, coded definition of ‘woman’ than that, which would allow for such a differentiation. And any such definition must, as others pointed out, rely on gender stereotypes like dresses and make-up and head-tilts. But they try to never actually admit that.
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I may be confusing Willoughby for some other TRA, but I’m pretty sure he’s said something similar to that before. Not surprisingly, even with all his overly performative attempts at acting out how he imagines upper-middle class entitled white women behave, he still doesn’t come across as a woman, let alone as convincingly as JKR, or pretty much any other woman.
How does this work? Are there levels of womanhood, according to his ideology? In the top level are the women who rape, and in the bottom level are the women who get raped?
GW, I believe it’s a complex math formula that factors in length of hair, frequency of manicures, and degree of head tilt, among other things.
I might be able to pass on length of hair, but the rest, I guess I’m just a lesser woman. My hair is at least as long as his, but I don’t go to the hairdresser, or have manicures, and tilting my head for very long makes my neck ache.
I think Dustin Hoffman was a better woman than either of them and a far better actor too.
I loved JKR’s response: Citation needed.
It’s Trumpian–grotesque overstatement abutting pathological egocentrism.
Re Dustin Hoffman:
“I was a better man with you as a woman than I ever was with a woman as a man.” Tootsie (1982)
Contrast IW’s statement.
Re #1, yes, IW and many other people have made similar comments before. I’ve mentioned a woman I know who said “You’re a better woman than I am” to a drag queen, a man who pretends to be a woman part of the time.
Citation needed. Love it.
And, of course, this absolutely puts paid to the TRA non-definition of a woman = “Any person who claims to be a woman”, since of course, JKR would certainly make such a claim. So it’s not only vainglorious, narcissistic and insulting–it’s also a magnificent own goal.
Or, as someone in the comments said, “an Owen goal”.
Freemage, I don’t get it. Are you using sarcasm, or meaning to say JKR would never make such a claim?
Women don’t generally make comparisons like that, insecure men do.
iknklast: I’m saying that JKR certainly regards herself as a woman, which under the loosey-goosey TRA definition, absolutely makes her a woman, no questions asked.
The only way it would be POSSIBLE for India to somehow be ‘more of a woman’ than JKR is for there to be some secret, coded definition of ‘woman’ than that, which would allow for such a differentiation. And any such definition must, as others pointed out, rely on gender stereotypes like dresses and make-up and head-tilts. But they try to never actually admit that.