Signed “A low T male (who could probably still whoop Musk in a fight for what it’s worth, which is nothing).
Francis Boyle
Context for the lame attempt at irony, since I realise people here don’t know what I look like. Like Musk I’m a flabby middle aged man of average height with no known fighting ability (I note that Musk v Zuckerberg never happened) but what I do have is a considerable weight advantage and not all of that fat. I’d probably just sit on the twerp. I don’t tend to get into fights but when I do they’re funny.
twiliter
Wow, a political theory based on elementary school peer dynamics.
Rubbish.
Of course His Autistic Eminence likes it, it makes him look more geniusy.
guest
Because the decisions high status males have made throughout history have always been so incredibly rational and worked out so well for everyone.
KBPlayer
Don’t high T males join the armed forces – and the military is famous for encouraging independent thinking.
Holms
Uh, “observation”? Strikes me as more of a (poorly informed, lunatic) opinion. But it flatters Elon and identifies as a statement of fact, which is what counts these days apparently.
twiliter
Don’t high T males join the armed forces – and the military is famous for encouraging independent thinking.
Exactly. Unless of course your an autist, then you can thwart their evil schemes with your special savant powers, because people don’t realize that we live in a comic book world, and the Uncanny X Men will save the universe.
twiliter
I just noticed the cosplay outfit in Elon’s profile pic. Very um… heroic?
Will the adults please step forward as soon as possible? Jeezuz.
Basically, what these guys are telling us is that they are stuck in junior high school.
Sackbut
I am neither a woman nor a low-T man, and I can’t defend myself physically. What’s with the assumption the only men uninterested in and unskilled in hand-to-hand combat must be “low-T”, and that no women possess such skills?
I think the reference to “Reich effect” is in regard to Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor and current writer and teacher of economic and political matters who wrote an op-ed in the Guardian saying that Musk is “out of control”.
High-T men aren’t particularly known for being intelligent or unemotional; they’re known primarily for senseless aggression. Doubt most male autistic are particularly high T either; this is stupid posturing by “betas” (eyeroll) trying to puff themselves up.
Lady Mondegreen
@Francis Boyle and @Sackbut
Reich effect? Which one?
I think the reference to “Reich effect” is in regard to Robert Reich
Wilhelm Reich. Crackpot pyschoanalyst and inventor of the “orgone accumulator.”
Orgone, named after the sexual orgasm, is, according to Reich, a cosmic energy. It is, in fact, the cosmic energy. Reich has not only discovered it; he has seen it, demonstrated it and named a town—Orgonon, Maine—after it. Here he builds accumulators of it, which are rented out to patients, who presumably derive ‘orgastic potency’ from it.
Mildred Edie Brady, “The Strange Case of Wilhelm Reich”
The New Republic, 1947
Tim Harris
They simultaneously amuse & disgust me, these mediocre men who like to think they are ‘alpha males’ – a meme picked up from some misunderstood biological textbook or some dubious sociobiological screed, which they immediately apply to themselves in order to conceal their insecurities and bolster their narcissistic tendencies; and then they go on to bully others in order to show off their supposed credentials. ‘Autism Capital’ has never inquired into the truth of anything, or ever had any interest in thinking seriously, as he demonstrates by rehearsing stale and, more important, false ideas picked up on the right-wing fever-net.
Your Name’s not Bruce?
…these mediocre men who like to think they are ‘alpha males’ … which they immediately apply to themselves in order to conceal their insecurities and bolster their narcissistic tendencies; and then they go on to bully others in order to show off their supposed credentials.
How many of the Nazi hierachy actually embodies the Aryan Ideal they extolled? Rules, standards, and laws are for others.
That was what prompted me to see what Musk has been up to.
Blood Knight in Sour Armor
Apropos of nothing: how many alphas do packs generally have? And is an alpha that’s constantly fighting challengers even an alpha anymore?
Your Name’s not Bruce?
…how many alphas do packs generally have?
I was thinking something similar, after a fashion. How long can these two thin-skinned narcissists abide each other? Also, there’s only room for one of them on that cross that both of them are trying to climb onto.
iknklast
BKiSA, I suppose it depends on species, but my understanding is that there is usually one. And yes, if they are constantly fighting others, they are still alpha, but only as long as they are winning.
One of the things the alpha must be constantly doing is defending his status. Sounds like a lousy life to me. Better to be the beta male, sneaking off for trysts with the ladies while the alpha and the would-be alphas fight.
twiliter
I think the people who promote this Greek letter classification garbage are all too concerned with their own social status — with social status itself being an ostensible scale. Maybe gangs of illiterate, adolescent men organize this way, but it’s a crap theory that explains almost nothing.
Holms
Huh. Interesting that Coel is nowhere to be seen when Musk is visibly supporting absurdities.
iknklast
Holms, I don’t know. I think Coel agrees with this…and I think he sees himself as one of the high status males who should be in charge. The rest of us should sit back and watch in admiration as he tells us just how everything works.
Tim Harris
Try this for size: Elon Mustk twittering, or X-ing, in support of Tucker Carlson’s interview with a Holocaust denier, who claims that the Nazis were forced into killing people with Zyklon B and other ways as a humanitarian resort, since they had captured or rounded up so many people that they couldn’t feed them so rather than let them die slowly of starvation… . Musk took down the tweet after a ferocious backlash, but here’s a copy:
Very interesting. Worth watching.
Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson – 19h Darryl Cooper may be the best and most honest popular historian in the United States. His latest project is the most forbidden of all: trying to
understand World War Two.
***
You can see a discussion of the matter on Youtube here:
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25 responses to “A Republic of high status males”
Reich effect? Which one? Fourth, I’m guessing.
Signed “A low T male (who could probably still whoop Musk in a fight for what it’s worth, which is nothing).
Context for the lame attempt at irony, since I realise people here don’t know what I look like. Like Musk I’m a flabby middle aged man of average height with no known fighting ability (I note that Musk v Zuckerberg never happened) but what I do have is a considerable weight advantage and not all of that fat. I’d probably just sit on the twerp. I don’t tend to get into fights but when I do they’re funny.
Wow, a political theory based on elementary school peer dynamics.
Rubbish.
Of course His Autistic Eminence likes it, it makes him look more geniusy.
Because the decisions high status males have made throughout history have always been so incredibly rational and worked out so well for everyone.
Don’t high T males join the armed forces – and the military is famous for encouraging independent thinking.
Uh, “observation”? Strikes me as more of a (poorly informed, lunatic) opinion. But it flatters Elon and identifies as a statement of fact, which is what counts these days apparently.
Exactly. Unless of course your an autist, then you can thwart their evil schemes with your special savant powers, because people don’t realize that we live in a comic book world, and the Uncanny X Men will save the universe.
I just noticed the cosplay outfit in Elon’s profile pic. Very um… heroic?
Will the adults please step forward as soon as possible? Jeezuz.
You hear similar ideas from Jordan Peterson.
Basically, what these guys are telling us is that they are stuck in junior high school.
I am neither a woman nor a low-T man, and I can’t defend myself physically. What’s with the assumption the only men uninterested in and unskilled in hand-to-hand combat must be “low-T”, and that no women possess such skills?
I think the reference to “Reich effect” is in regard to Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor and current writer and teacher of economic and political matters who wrote an op-ed in the Guardian saying that Musk is “out of control”.
Independent article via Yahoo News
High-T men aren’t particularly known for being intelligent or unemotional; they’re known primarily for senseless aggression. Doubt most male autistic are particularly high T either; this is stupid posturing by “betas” (eyeroll) trying to puff themselves up.
@Francis Boyle and @Sackbut
Wilhelm Reich. Crackpot pyschoanalyst and inventor of the “orgone accumulator.”
Mildred Edie Brady, “The Strange Case of Wilhelm Reich”
The New Republic, 1947
They simultaneously amuse & disgust me, these mediocre men who like to think they are ‘alpha males’ – a meme picked up from some misunderstood biological textbook or some dubious sociobiological screed, which they immediately apply to themselves in order to conceal their insecurities and bolster their narcissistic tendencies; and then they go on to bully others in order to show off their supposed credentials. ‘Autism Capital’ has never inquired into the truth of anything, or ever had any interest in thinking seriously, as he demonstrates by rehearsing stale and, more important, false ideas picked up on the right-wing fever-net.
How many of the Nazi hierachy actually embodies the Aryan Ideal they extolled? Rules, standards, and laws are for others.
Robert Reich had a great response on his Substack today, that I think is worth reading. It’s divided into two sections:
I. Elon Musk is out of control;
II. How to rein Musk in.
He ends with an addendum about Musk’s response to an earlier version of the article.
That was what prompted me to see what Musk has been up to.
Apropos of nothing: how many alphas do packs generally have? And is an alpha that’s constantly fighting challengers even an alpha anymore?
I was thinking something similar, after a fashion. How long can these two thin-skinned narcissists abide each other? Also, there’s only room for one of them on that cross that both of them are trying to climb onto.
BKiSA, I suppose it depends on species, but my understanding is that there is usually one. And yes, if they are constantly fighting others, they are still alpha, but only as long as they are winning.
One of the things the alpha must be constantly doing is defending his status. Sounds like a lousy life to me. Better to be the beta male, sneaking off for trysts with the ladies while the alpha and the would-be alphas fight.
I think the people who promote this Greek letter classification garbage are all too concerned with their own social status — with social status itself being an ostensible scale. Maybe gangs of illiterate, adolescent men organize this way, but it’s a crap theory that explains almost nothing.
Huh. Interesting that Coel is nowhere to be seen when Musk is visibly supporting absurdities.
Holms, I don’t know. I think Coel agrees with this…and I think he sees himself as one of the high status males who should be in charge. The rest of us should sit back and watch in admiration as he tells us just how everything works.
Try this for size: Elon Mustk twittering, or X-ing, in support of Tucker Carlson’s interview with a Holocaust denier, who claims that the Nazis were forced into killing people with Zyklon B and other ways as a humanitarian resort, since they had captured or rounded up so many people that they couldn’t feed them so rather than let them die slowly of starvation… . Musk took down the tweet after a ferocious backlash, but here’s a copy:
Very interesting. Worth watching.
Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson – 19h Darryl Cooper may be the best and most honest popular historian in the United States. His latest project is the most forbidden of all: trying to
understand World War Two.
***
You can see a discussion of the matter on Youtube here:
https://youtu.be/A5qx7sU7MEk?si=qqfqXkPSSaYHkh7j
“Very interesting. Worth watching” are Musk’s words.
I saw the Tucker C part.
https://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2024/what-if/