‘Muslims run the prisons and there’s nothing the screws can do about it. For a Muslim you’d say it’s good but for a non-Muslim, it’s very, very bad.’
Author: Ophelia Benson
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Aquinas, Calvin and Buckminster T Fuller
Oh, Texas, Texas, Texas.
The Texas school board has been fixing up the standards for the curriculum.
9:30 – Board member Cynthia Dunbar wants to change a standard having students study the impact of Enlightenment ideas on political revolutions from 1750 to the present…9:45 – Here’s the amendment Dunbar changed: “explain the impact of Enlightenment ideas from John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, and Thomas Jefferson on political revolutions from 1750 to the present.” Here’s Dunbar’s replacement standard, which passed: “explain the impact of the writings of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and Sir William Blackstone.”
That’s wonderful, isn’t it? From a list that makes sense to one that’s just a demented ragbag. But they got that horrid Enlightenment thing out, and that’s the main thing.
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Vatican Says How Right It Is About Everything
It was secretive about the sexual abuse of children to protect the good name of…the children.
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The Queen Invented the Telephone
Luke Skywalker was the first human to walk on the moon. Another droll quiz.
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Julian Baggini on ’36 Arguments for the Existence of God’
‘In Britain, cleverness is regarded as at once praiseworthy and not wholly admirable.’
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The Texas Freedom Network Reports
Debate over new social studies curriculum has spiraled into another culture war pushed by far-right pressure groups.
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The New Texas Social Studies
The source.
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Texas Reactionaries Change Curriculum
There were no historians, sociologists or economists consulted at the meetings.
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Humanists to Hold Inclusive Prom in Mississippi
Itawamba County School District canceled their prom rather than let a lesbian student bring her girlfriend.
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Hitchens on Stupid Nasty Threats
‘I have just finished reading one of the most astoundingly stupid and nasty documents ever to have landed on my desk.’
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You have got to be kidding
Oh Jesus – I give up. Taner’s taken leave of his senses. He’s not ambivalent about liberalism, he’s ditched it entirely.
I don’t know if the institutional forms that constrain communities have to have to take the shape of an external arbiter, a Bureau of Individual Rights in Communities or something. Quite possibly, given our governmental habits. Say it’s so. But then, I would also expect such a Bureau to be sensitive to political negotiations between particular communities concerning what kind of exit procedures will be realized. It wouldn’t just be imposition of a liberal individualist superstructure.
Fucking hell. The human rights body has to be ‘sensitive’ about whether or not the communities will let people leave…
It’s crazy. It’s crazy and it’s scary. People like this would let me be locked up for life if they could! They would demand ‘senstivity’ and ‘negotiation’ before I could be allowed to escape – and maybe they would reluctantly say that the community simply wouldn’t have it, and I couldn’t be permitted to leave. This is madness!
And it gets even worse.
Presumably a multicultural regime in modern times would try to negotiate a balance between (partial, permeable) community autonomy, and (nonabsolute, constrained) individual autonomy. That is, short of life and limb, a community would still be able to impose significant costs on members violating internal norms. (Again, the extent of these costs would presumably be up to particular political negotiations.)
I should stop commenting, because I’m really disgusted, and I’ll get myself in trouble.
Taner – here’s a thought. Just read Shirley Jackson’s famous story ‘The Lottery.’ You need it.
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The fresh air of the explicit
And another thing. I replied to Taner’s “We do have proposals to this effect, and they come down to communities having a good deal of autonomy in regulating their own affairs…” with “But again, that treats ‘communities’ as if they were people. ‘Communities’ don’t have affairs; people do, one at a time.” Taner replied with “I find it perfectly sensible to talk about the interests of a corporation, the affairs of a university, or the internal rules of a bridge club. And so with communities.”
Ah yes – but there is a difference. It’s not ‘and so with communities,’ because ‘communities’ are different from corporations and universities and even bridge clubs. The difference is part of what makes them so risky, so difficult to deal with, so potentially and sometimes actually oppressive. The difference (the one I’m thinking of anyway) is that corporations and universities are specifiable, and precise, and explicit; they have rules and contracts, in writing; you know where you are with them. ‘Communities’ are not any of those things, they don’t have any of those things, you don’t know where you are with them. Communities are all about the tacit, the implicit, the understood, the unwritten – which means they are opaque to outsiders and unaccountable to insiders. This means that if you decide that ‘communities’ should be free to make and enforce their own rules, you’re left with no real way to call them to account, and you’ve left their members helpless.
And ‘communities’ are different from corporations and universities in having no real borders or definitions, too. ‘Communities’ are notional, and it’s really anybody’s guess who belongs and who doesn’t. Who decides who belongs to what community? Who decides who doesn’t belong? Is everyone allowed to decline to belong to any particular community?
The answer to that last question, at least, seems pretty obviously to be ‘no’ – especially in the case of ‘the Muslim community,’ which does not encourage leaving Islam. Some people are going to be considered to belong to some communities whether they consent or not – and they will be treated accordingly. Corporations and universities don’t operate that way. The ‘communities’ Taner has in mind are non-liberal and non-secular ones, since liberal secularism is exactly what he is departing from in this series of posts. But in that case, he is arguing that non-liberal non-secular ‘communities’ should have power over people who might very well have no desire whatsoever to belong to said ‘communities.’ This isn’t a contrived worry, either, to put it mildly – secular Muslims decidedly are subject to social pressure from ‘the Muslim community.’ If they don’t have the liberal state to turn to – they’re sunk. This ain’t no game of bridge.
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Hindu ‘Activists’ Protest Wendy Doniger’s Book
Cite ‘persistent verbal violence against Hindus.’ Doniger is a finalist for National Book Critics Circle awards.
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ABC Blogs on Global Atheist Convention
More in sorrow than in anger.
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Andrew Brown on Catholic Child Abuse
‘Whether it is more vile than the record of any other profession is not obvious.’
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Bob from Brockley on Apologists for Iran
Looking at Press TV’s Iran news, one would have no idea there is anything going on, let alone an uprising.
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Mo is in Full Rebellion Mode
The first step is to apply for a grant.
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German Man on What Catholic Church Did to Him
Abuse victim asked JPII for help, got letter from official: no apology, said pope would pray for him.
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BBC Sneers at Melbourne Atheist Convention
‘A religious gathering at the same venue in December attracted three times as many delegates.’
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Supreme Court Refuses Lillian Ladele’s Appeal
‘In my case, one set of rights was trampled by another set of rights,’ she says.
