To calm a woman’s zeal

So we learn that FGM is practiced in Dagestan. Don’t worry about it though – it’s perfectly healthy.

Ismail Berdiev, the chairman of the North Caucasus Muslim Coordinating Center, told the radio station Govorit Moskva that female circumcision is a healthy, “purely Dagestani custom.”

“As far as I know,” Berdiev explained on air, “it’s done to calm a woman’s zeal somewhat. There’s absolutely no health problem here.”

Ah yes, to calm a woman’s zeal, so that she won’t enjoy sex any more, because if she enjoyed it…well that would be kind of gross, you have to admit. Who needs a woman to enjoy sex? What’s the point of that? It’s the man who’s supposed to enjoy it; all the woman is supposed to do is let him enjoy it. (By not talking for instance.) If she wants to enjoy it too she’ll be all “what about me?” when he just wants to focus on himself.

And there’s absolutely no health problem. She can still have a job and do all the domestic work, don’t worry about that.

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10 responses to “To calm a woman’s zeal”

  1. Steamshovelmama Avatar
    Steamshovelmama

    So, God created women to bear children but man has to improve on his work by reducing her sexuality. Isn’t this an implicit criticism of God’s design of women’s bodies?

  2. Charles Sullivan Avatar
    Charles Sullivan

    Spirit vs flesh seem to be a constant theme in the three monotheisms: Spirit is good (comes from God), Flesh is bad (comes from nature, animal-like). Spirit is also rational (that’s convenient), and Flesh is more driven by appetite, desire, lust. Men are more rational, women are more the other one…therefore….

    Although it’s more complicated than that, isn’t it, because women are the tempters. It’s not that they are more lustful than men, but that they tempt men to “sins of the flesh.” The awaken in men their stronger lust. Women make men more lustful, and that has a “bad” effect on society, on the families, on the children.

  3. John the Drunkard Avatar
    John the Drunkard

    And the denial…the North Caucasus Muslim Coordinating Center claiming that the practice is REALLY a ‘purely Dagestani custom.’ Then why do they have any opinion about it?

    Since ‘moderate Muslims’ maintain that there is no Quranic support for the practice, and (apparently) no Hadith that prescribe it, how can it be defended simultaneously as ‘local color’ and divine command?

  4. John Avatar

    A comment by a nurse at a website covering this.

    And we haven’t even gotten to sex yet, have we?

    Because that is when the real horror begins. The vagina is designed, not only to deliver a baby; but to admit a penis. Mother Nature in her creation of man and woman has seen to it that we are ‘fearfully and wonderfully made’. But her design is butchered in FGM, and forever after sexual intercourse for these poor young women is agonizing. I do not exaggerate. The vaginal lubrication which normally attends sexual arousal, DOES NOT OCCUR. That is because the clitoris normally triggers this.

    But there is no clitoris, so there is no arousal/lubrication. So every time a young woman (wait-these are muslims. What am I thinking. It could just as well be a 9 year old child) ‘has sex’, she tears. Vaginally. In time, there is permanent scarification. Which only adds to her agony…

    Every woman here knows the pain of a UTI. In like manner we know the pain of vaginal tearing.

    But we are western women, so our husbands love us. The last thing they want to do is hurt us. And since they are real men, not sadistic perverts, they desire our pleasure because-again due to mother nature’s perfect plan-our pleasure makes possible their own.

    But muslim ‘men’ are not men. Their only concern is their own ‘pleasure’. So every night that comes they rape and tear and assault their ‘wives’.

  5. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    You just have to push it, don’t you, John. I let that comment through because it’s informative, but you could have omitted that last paragraph. You could have and should have. That’s a Trump-level overgeneralization, and it’s ugly. You also could and should have included a link.

    You do realize there are Muslim men who don’t want to hurt their wives during sex, don’t you?

  6. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Next time you quote something, John, source it properly, by which I don’t mean “at a website covering this.” Give the link and say “at Jihadwatch.” Don’t play games.

  7. Silentbob Avatar

    @ 7 Ophelia Benson

    Thanks for the source. I got a chuckle out of some of the replies. “bob” says:

    Thank you for such an in depth insight into FGM. God created our bodies and humans destroy it. Muslims?? No idea where they get their ideas from.

    Um, bob, you realise that in the Bible, God makes a covenant with Abraham, and a condition of God’s part of the deal is that thenceforth all the men will cut off their foreskins?

    Dear Bob; muslims get their ideas from Satan because allah of the Koran and hadiths IS Satan of the Bible if one does a thorough research of the attributes of allah of the Koran and hadiths of muhammed you will see that allah is the “best of deceivers and loves to kill and steal and torture people. In the Bible, Jesus ( who is truly God incarnate and whom muslims denigrate to a mere man) describes Satan as a “murderer thief and liar from the beginning”

    Uh huh. Does this guy even realise he’s a mirror image of the people he’s condemning?

  8. Silentbob Avatar

    (I didn’t give a source for the “cut off their foreskins” thing because I assumed it is well known, but for the sake of completeness, it’s Genesis 17:9-14.)