From the annals of Women Who Pimp Their Granddaughters:
Davie was a client of the woman’s and kept in touch when he moved away from the Wellington area, where the woman lived.
The pair exchanged text messages, during which he asked her if she knew of any young people available for sex.
She sent him four nude photos of her granddaughter in exchange for a $40 mobile phone top-up, and he asked if she would be interested in making money from the child.
They discussed prices – Davie offered $1000, but the grandmother said she wanted a cheap car – what kind of contact would occur, and dates.
How old is the granddaughter? Ten. Plenty old enough to be raped by granny’s john, yeah? Granny probably would have taken the kid for a nice ride in her cheap car once she stopped bleeding.
Davie also said he knew someone who could train the child in sexual behaviour – Morgana Platt.
Platt, who was known as Malcolm John Platt, but now identifies as a woman, was jailed in 2009 for raping a 16-year-old girl in Christchurch, who later took her own life.
According to Parole Board documents, the 16-year-old indicated she killed herself because of Platt’s offending.
Platt and Davie had come up with a plan to find a vulnerable girl for Platt to train as a sex worker.
Well…to train as a rape victim. It seems just a tad euphemistic to call a ten-year-old pimped by her grandmother a “sex worker.”
Davie forwarded to Platt one of the photos of the 10-year-old. Platt described the girl as “yummy” and “delicious”.
Like a nice big bowl of ice cream, but with thoughts and feelings. Yum.
H/t Rob
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And she appealed against the sentence, which was only 3 years 3 months. She thinks that’s too long a sentence because the child was not *actually* raped, despite her grandmother setting up a time, date, price and conditions, then a second time and date when the first one fell through.
Grandmother sex trader? This not what I thought 2018 would be like in 1999…in 2009…
I can’t say how appalled I am that this happens in my community. Surprised, sadly not, but still appalled. I actually thought the grandmother got off very very lightly, so her appeal displayed a remarkable lack of insight into her crime. Shame you can’t tag more time on in such circumstances.
It also adds considerable weight to the arguments that sex work is just a jolly good bit of fun with no abusive elements and something women just totally want to do. Remember that NZ has some of the most ‘progressive’ laws in the world around sex work.
It also provides yet another data point that there are in fact trans women who committed sex crimes prior to transition and who continue to be a threat to the safety of women and girls after they transition. I know that this doesn’t apply to all trans women, but the fact that the numbers are not trivial is a valid point for discussion around safety and opening up exclusive women spaces to all comers.
@Rob
Yeah, that’s one of the (many) things I find particularly horrifying about it, an incredibly lenient sentence and no apparent remorse.
I’m not a big fan of prison as a punishment in itself or as a deterrent, which doesn’t work. But as a way to keep other people safe? Yep. This woman is quite clearly a danger to other young girls and – perhaps – still to her grand daughter.
I’m not sure anyone argues that there is no abuse in the sex industry. People just wave their hands vaguely at the hordes of women who are prostitutes for fun and profit, who somehow never seem to come forward and make themselves heard. But it certainly does make it clear that the ugly side has an ugly side.
And the trans thing, yeah. It doesn’t matter how many examples you point out, though because even pointing out examples is transphobic even if you qualify it with “not all trans women.”
Saying prison as a deterrent doesn’t work is a huge overgeneralization at best. There are some specific crimes, such as crimes of passion, where the threat of prison doesn’t deter much. In general, though, if we assured everyone that nothing they did could land them in prison, I’m sure we’d some changes in behavior, to put it mildly.
Of course it is. Surely you didn’t think I believed that no crime has ever been deterred by the threat of prison.
Let’s say instead that it doesn’t work as advertised. But that’s not something I intend to argue about. My point is that the sentence of 3 years and 3 months certainly isn’t up to the task of protecting little girls from this woman. And for that matter, doesn’t strike me as much of a deterrent.
Something to ponder. I read comments on the dashboard, which means I read the newer ones first, which means I read latsot @ 6 before any others…and I no sooner read the quoted bit than I thought “Has to be Skeletor.” And lo, when I scrolled down, it was so.
Ponder that a little, Skeletor. I’m glad you comment, and you do more commenting as opposed to correcting than you did at first, but…linger a moment to ponder the fact that I could tell that was you just from the blockquoted passage.
latsot, #4;
The problem, though, is in actually pointing out the abuse. Just as with the trans-mafia, the woke sex-work supporters see criticism of one as criticism of all no matter how many disclaimers the critic may make, and the responses are as predictable, coming as they do from the same How To Be Woke playbook.
‘So you think it’s a good idea to protect children from abuse? How FUCKING dare you say that sex-work is abuse! You’re denying my existence! Your words are violence! You’re the fucking abuser, you whorephobe!’
Yeah, AoS, I’ve fallen foul of that once or twice too.
(Cross-posted from Miscellany Room 2).
Oh, for fuck sake. I shan’t link to it because…well, just because, but PZ has a post up about orang utans being sold into prostitution. Orang utans! Shaved, perfumed, lipsticked, for the sexual gratification of loggers and plantation workers.
What the fuck is wrong with
peoplemen? I mean, where the available choice is a shaved orang stolen from the jungle, a 10-year-old girl sold by her own gran, or a wank, who the everloving fuck wouldn’t opt for onanism?AoS, I saw that this (for me) morning and I’ve been raging about it ever since. There are at least half a dozen levels of… well, what? I don’t even know any more. Abusing an animal. Abusing an endangered animal. Deliberately endangering an animal to abuse… And then the obvious, immediate comparison between human women and the enslaved Oran utan….
I’ve no idea whether the story is real. It sounds kind of fishy to me, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised. I’m raging about the fact that it wouldn’t really surprise anyone.
Well goats and sheep and even cows are so well known as “sex workers” that there are jokes on the subject going back millennia.
On the other hand, orangs like chimps are MUCH stronger than humans, so it does seem fishy in the sense that it would be extremely dangerous.
But easy to frighten, capture and exploit if they are on their own, especially if they are children.
If it is real, you’d almost have to sedate it, I would think. So basically like a drunk woman. Someone who just lies there and lets you do it because they aren’t able to fight back.
Re orangutans being raped–it’s definitely happened at least once; I remember the story. There’s a mention here, in a NYT piece about the black market trade in apes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/world/africa/ape-trafficking-bonobos-orangutans.html
Oh jeez that’s just fucked up. I’m sorry, I have nothing intelligent to say about this anymore.
The orang was apparently chained to the bed.
Oh fuuuuuuuuck.