It seems fair enough to ask why, in the 21st century, a girl not wanting to wear a dress is even considered gender non-conforming. We thought we won that battle long ago, with all sorts of trousers, jeans, and other pants for women. Now, those of us wearing pants every day are being told we must be male? Fuck that.
Imagine calling yourself progressive, while also peddling retrograde gender rules from the ’50s. The only twist is, where the earlier gender rules would say “some clothes are man only, some clothes are woman only; you can’t wear the wrong thing for your sex”, the hip trendies of today say “you can’t wear the wrong thing for your sex; because we will define you as the other sex if you transgress”.
They may be opt-in unlike in the earlier time, but they are still the same rigidly defined gender categories.
Holms, I’m not sure I would consider them any more opt-in than the other group, because they are claiming people as trans that are not, and never were, in some cases long after they died. Also because a young girl who doesn’t fit the gender roles won’t be expected to “opt in”, she will be cajoled and persuaded until she accepts someone else’s definition of her identity and believes she opted in. There was a post Ophelia did here a while back about a doctor who explained her technique for “helping trans” kids, and when one girl denied being a boy, she was quite proud of her stupid PopTarts analogy that persuaded a girl to call herself a boy.
It’s not opt in, it’s call yourself trans if you fit our idea of trans.
How many little girls (GNC or otherwise) are excited and happy to get a dress (instead of a toy or book) for a birthday present?
Question 2:
How did we go from
“what’s wrong with this girl for wanting to wear overalls instead of a dress (and wanting to collect bugs and play in the mud)”
to
“well it’s a bit weird, but she really *wants* to wear overalls, so why make a fuss (as long as she will accept the scratchy dress for a while when we need to visit the grandparents)”
to
“sure, what difference does it make what the kid is wearing as long as it is safe, clean (at least when donned), and comfortable” (which was prevalent at least in some circles in the 1990s)
to
“of course there is something wrong with this girl for wanting to wear overalls, and we know what it is and how to fix it”
It seems fair enough to ask why, in the 21st century, a girl not wanting to wear a dress is even considered gender non-conforming. We thought we won that battle long ago, with all sorts of trousers, jeans, and other pants for women. Now, those of us wearing pants every day are being told we must be male? Fuck that.
Yeah, for being all rule-breaking and progressive, itβs all so… conventional.
I bet that’s not at all what most people think the trans/nb discussion is about.
Imagine calling yourself progressive, while also peddling retrograde gender rules from the ’50s. The only twist is, where the earlier gender rules would say “some clothes are man only, some clothes are woman only; you can’t wear the wrong thing for your sex”, the hip trendies of today say “you can’t wear the wrong thing for your sex; because we will define you as the other sex if you transgress”.
They may be opt-in unlike in the earlier time, but they are still the same rigidly defined gender categories.
Holms, I’m not sure I would consider them any more opt-in than the other group, because they are claiming people as trans that are not, and never were, in some cases long after they died. Also because a young girl who doesn’t fit the gender roles won’t be expected to “opt in”, she will be cajoled and persuaded until she accepts someone else’s definition of her identity and believes she opted in. There was a post Ophelia did here a while back about a doctor who explained her technique for “helping trans” kids, and when one girl denied being a boy, she was quite proud of her stupid PopTarts analogy that persuaded a girl to call herself a boy.
It’s not opt in, it’s call yourself trans if you fit our idea of trans.
Question 1:
How many little girls (GNC or otherwise) are excited and happy to get a dress (instead of a toy or book) for a birthday present?
Question 2:
How did we go from
“what’s wrong with this girl for wanting to wear overalls instead of a dress (and wanting to collect bugs and play in the mud)”
to
“well it’s a bit weird, but she really *wants* to wear overalls, so why make a fuss (as long as she will accept the scratchy dress for a while when we need to visit the grandparents)”
to
“sure, what difference does it make what the kid is wearing as long as it is safe, clean (at least when donned), and comfortable” (which was prevalent at least in some circles in the 1990s)
to
“of course there is something wrong with this girl for wanting to wear overalls, and we know what it is and how to fix it”