Let’s forced raped women to stay pregnant

Of course they did.

Opponents of abortion rights have a long history of supporting abortion bans with three major exceptions: when the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, or when a woman’s life is at risk.

But, fueled by momentum from the passage of a restrictive abortion law in Alabama, a coalition of anti-abortion-rights groups released a letter Wednesday asking Republican officials to “reconsider decades-old talking points” on exceptions to such laws.

“We understand that issues like rape and incest are difficult topics to tackle; nevertheless, it is our view that the value of human life is not determined by the circumstances of one’s conception or birth,” said a draft of the letter provided to NPR by Students for Life of America, which led the effort.

But it’s not just about “one’s” conception or birth. It’s also about the female human being in which “one” has to gestate for nine months in order to be able to have an actual human life. That female human being is already a human being with a life; she’s not a process, she’s completed. If she’s not completed she can’t possibly gestate or conceive an infant, so we know she’s completed.

If we think about it from the angle of valuing her human life first, then we grasp that the circumstances of conception do indeed determine the value of the process inside her body that depends on her before it can be a human life. If the conception is a result of rape then it is violently against her will: it is something she did not want and did not seek, and it’s something that was imposed on her forcibly by the kind of human being that is free from ever being forced to gestate an infant she never asked for.

The forced-birthers of course want us to put the life of the fetus first, with the life of the host a distant second if at all. But there’s no reason to do that. An embryo has no reason to cling to life, to want to stay inside the female body long enough to have a human life; an embryo has no plans, no ongoing life it wants to continue, no dreams, no memories, no favorite landscapes. The imagined life of the embryo should not trump the real life of the woman or girl.

The letter to McDaniel comes as Charlotte Pence, the daughter of Vice President Pence, penned an op-ed in The Washington Times expressing support for Alabama’s law. “Personally, I would not encourage a friend to get an abortion if she suffered the horrendous evil of rape or incest because I care about her child — and her. I do not believe abortion provides healing,” she writes.

But it’s not about what Charlotte Pence believes. It’s about what the woman or girl wants.

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11 responses to “Let’s forced raped women to stay pregnant”

  1. James Garnett Avatar
    James Garnett

    There was a tweet (or series of tweets, I think) recently by a woman who stated that if she had not had an abortion when very young, that she would never have married and had the three children that she did end up having. One never hears about what potentially could be from abortion opponents. If human life is so valuable, then surely three happy children are better than one miserable one?

  2. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    They may be over playing their hand this time since this view is really out of sync with even a lot of anti-abortionists. Let’s hope so…

  3. J. A. Avatar

    #1, the woman you’re referring to is the writer Ursula K. Le Guin, and here’s a excerpt of what she wrote:

    Excerpted from “What It Was Like” (2012), published in Words Are My Matter, 2016:

    My friends at NARAL asked me to tell you what it was like before Roe vs Wade. They asked me to tell you what it was like to be twenty and pregnant in 1950 and when you tell your boyfriend you’re pregnant, he tells you about a friend of his in the army whose girl told him she was pregnant, so he got all his buddies to come and say, “We all fucked her, so who knows who the father is?” And he laughs at the good joke….

    What was it like, if you were planning to go to graduate school and get a degree and earn a living so you could support yourself and do the work you loved—what it was like to be a senior at Radcliffe and pregnant and if you bore this child, this child which the law demanded you bear and would then call “unlawful,” “illegitimate,” this child whose father denied it … What was it like? […]

    It’s like this: if I had dropped out of college, thrown away my education, depended on my parents … if I had done all that, which is what the anti-abortion people want me to have done, I would have borne a child for them, … the authorities, the theorists, the fundamentalists; I would have born a child for them, their child.

    But I would not have born my own first child, or second child, or third child. My children.

    The life of that fetus would have prevented, would have aborted, three other fetuses … the three wanted children, the three I had with my husband—whom, if I had not aborted the unwanted one, I would never have met … I would have been an “unwed mother” of a three-year-old in California, without work, with half an education, living off her parents….

    But it is the children I have to come back to, my children Elisabeth, Caroline, Theodore, my joy, my pride, my loves. If I had not broken the law and aborted that life nobody wanted, they would have been aborted by a cruel, bigoted, and senseless law. They would never have been born. This thought I cannot bear.

  4. iknklast Avatar

    And if I had not had the abortion I had, I would not today have my son, who has as much right to live – more, because he is actually a living, breathing, human being – as the ball of cells that I aborted.

  5. Screechy Monkey Avatar
    Screechy Monkey

    If you accept the premises of the pro-life argument — which, of course, you shouldn’t — then logically it really shouldn’t matter how a fetus was conceived. But the GOP has usually allowed those kinds of exceptions because (1) they were trying to just gently push on, rather than plow right through, the legal boundaries of Roe/Casey; and (2) they know how few people are convinced, and how many are appalled, by arguments that women should be compelled to bear their rapist’s child.

    Now they’ve got the Supreme Court they want, #1 is no longer a consideration. I’m not sure what’s going on with reason #2, though. I think maybe they’re just gambling that those states are so red that overreaching on abortion won’t hurt them. They may be right — Alabama almost elected a sexual predator to the Senate just to avoid even a conservative Democrat.

  6. Naif Avatar

    There is now so clearly a strategy being implemented across many states and organizations it is actually stunning. Stack the courts, load the state legislatures with test cases, and then this – all of a sudden, the ‘rape and incest’ exceptions which have been a common part of the anti-abortion discussion for at least a generation are being cast aside, seemingly against all political reason.

    This is clearly an attempt to move the Overton Window on abortion rights. Bring a total and universal ban into the conversation, and suddenly substantial restrictions to the current set of rights will appear as a reasonable compromise.

  7. James Garnett Avatar
    James Garnett

    J.A. @ 3: Thank you!! I knew that it was a woman whom I admired and followed, I just forgot that it was UkLG.

  8. Holms Avatar

    Opponents of abortion rights have a long history of supporting abortion bans with three major exceptions: when the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, or when a woman’s life is at risk.

    They missed one: when a wealthy man’s mistress becomes pregnant, the rules just magically change.

    The forced-birthers of course want us to put the life of the fetus first, with the life of the host a distant second if at all.

    I think you’re being too generous – I don’t think they even care about the potential life half as much as they care about keeping women under control. If they did, they’d be lobbying for the rights of all of those fertilised zygotes frozen for research and in fertility clinics.

    But they just don’t care about those, only the ones currently in a woman are to be forced to term.

  9. iknklast Avatar

    I think you’re being too generous – I don’t think they even care about the potential life half as much as they care about keeping women under control. If they did, they’d be lobbying for the rights of all of those fertilised zygotes frozen for research and in fertility clinics.

    Some do go that far.

    When George W. Bush banned embryonic stem cell research in 2001, he appeared publicly with snowflake kids and their parents.

  10. Samantha Vimes Avatar
    Samantha Vimes

    The value of human life, clearly, depends on not being a woman or girl.

  11. J. A. Avatar

    James, you’re welcome. I met with Le Guin twice myself (and read her works too, of course) and found her to be a very wise woman. Not a wise person or a wise uterus-holder, but a wise woman.