Which foot is the shoe on?

Spot the irony.

https://twitter.com/RKDasgupta/status/1144355197717831685

A man lost the LGBT Officer post because – oh no – a straight man stood against him.

Much dismay.

https://twitter.com/Lewis_ALee/status/1144521775776063488

And yet…who is the Labour Students national women’s officer again? Oh yes, “Lily” Madigan, who identifies as a woman but is not literally a woman. It’s terribly wrong for a straight man to be elected a local LGBT Officer but it’s fabulous for a boy to be elected national student women’s officer. It’s bad to shove gay men aside but it’s good to shove women aside.

Why is that, again?

Comments

11 responses to “Which foot is the shoe on?”

  1. Roj Blake Avatar

    Maybe the “str8 white man” was a TERF, trying to prove a point about the wrong people getting the positions? Probably not.

    Ah well, dream on …

  2. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Is it wrong that this gave me a genuine belly-laugh?

  3. StlSin Avatar

    Has any commentary on this, be it news article or social media post, mentioned the name of the person who won? It seems to be a mystery.

  4. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    I love the dishonesty of the first sentence.

    ‘I lost the LGBT Officer post because a str8 white man stood against me.

    First, he did not lose the post because he didn’t hold it to begin with. He lost an election for the post. Second, he did not lose because a straight man stood against him, he lost because his opponent received the most votes. Of course, the truth – that two men stood as candidates for the role of LGBT Officer and one of them won – just doesn’t sound ‘victimy’ enough.

    The rest is no better, just a hodgepodge of vagueness.

    His statement[1] did not have one sentence about LGBT campaiging.Those sharing homophobic content today clapped[2]. There was mass walkout in disgust[3]. I might actually be done[4]. Over to you @UKLabour[5]

    [1] What statement? His campaign statement? His acceptance statement? His Linkedin personal statement?

    [2] What homophobic content? Who shared it? Was the act of clapping homophobic?

    [3] Define ‘mass’. How many walked out in disgust as opposed to leaving because the election was over and result announced?

    [4] Fucking blatant, self-pitying cry for sympathy.

    [5] I suppose he wants the party to overturn the election result in his favour before the inevitable Twitter shit-storm, which will of couse be fuelled by that very tweet.

    Whatever happened to the concept of being gracious in triumph and in defeat? Nowadays it appears to be either gloat in victory and sulk-rage in defeat.

  5. Your Names not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Names not Bruce?

    Whatever happened to the concept of being gracious in triumph and in defeat? Nowadays it appears to be either gloat in victory and sulk-rage in defeat.

    More from Dasgupta:

    A straight white man was voted by a straight majority GC to be a LGBT Officer. Tell me how the Labour Party is still the party for equality and social justice? Tell me why I shouldn’t tear up my card right now. Tell me why this CLP is still not under special measures

    [YNNB]Wow. Special measures. That sound sintense. Not Stalinist at all. Definitely sore loser behaviour.

    As we left we were booed and asked to f*** off by several people? Who were they?

    [YNNB] I imagine anyone who mighthave suspected you might have called for “special measures” in the face of losing this vote might have done that.

    Finally the person who stood against me who doesn’t for once say how he self identifies in his statement or in his speech.

    [YNNB] So is withholding one’s pronouns a crime? What if he’d decided to identify as a women, would that have made it okay? if not, why not? What would be the difference between one str8 dude and another declaring themselves to be a women? How can you tell which is a “real” woman?

    What happened last night was the culmination of 2 years of chipping away at our democracy by a group of people who were only keen on self glorification rather than true liberation politics. From a fantastic black chair Charlene 2 years ago we now have 0 black representation.SHAME

    [YNNB] Like not accepting an election’s results is democratic? That only those who are orthodox can occupy the position you ran for?

    He does retweet someone else who at least has some sense of the “shoes: we’re talking about:

    People are replying saying we deserve this because trans women can stand for women’s officer positions. How many different kinds of disgusting do you have to be to see this and think “what a good opportunity to attack trans people”?

    [YNNB] Reaping/sowing does come to mind…

  6. Graham Douglas Avatar
    Graham Douglas

    Maybe we should start calling it “victim claiming”.

    YNnB @5: nothing overly sinister about “special measures”. It’s a term used by Ofsted (the schools inspectorate): if a school doesn’t reach minimum educational standards, it’s put into special measures. This involves intervention in the running of the school (often by replacing the head teacher) in order to raise the standards. I mean, yes, applying that concept to a CLP in this context is still a bit iffy, but I don’t think it reaches Stalinesque proportions.

  7. Your Names not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Names not Bruce?

    Thanks or the clarification, Graham Douglas.

    I’m hoping this might be a tiny turning point in all this, where more people say “Hang on a minute, what are you on about?” with regards to the erosion of women’s protections at the behest of men claiming to be women.

  8. Naif Avatar

    Labour seems to be finding new and innovative ways to devour itself. It is remarkable how dismissive they are of women’s concerns, simply brushing aside the comparison to the Madigan situation. Between this and the Williamson fiasco, they seem determined to give BoJo a long run in #10.

  9. John the Drunkard Avatar
    John the Drunkard

    How can he be sure the candidate was ‘str8?’ Perhaps he had a pink rabbit’s foot in his pocket.

  10. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    How can he be sure the candidate was a man? Maybe the candidate is a non-disclosed trans woman.

  11. Dave Ricks Avatar

    Rohit Dasgupta pinned his Airing of Grievances to the top of his Twitter page, and his pinned thread includes the winner’s campaign statement at the end:

    Finally the person who stood against me who doesn’t for once say how he self identifies in his statement or in his speech. This is what we are dealing with. How is he going to ensure a strong voice for LGBT people when every LGBT person left the room after his election in disgust

    I transcribed the winner’s campaign statement in full, with my bolding added in the body:

    Your candidate for the West Ham Labour LGBTQ+ Officer

    I have been a Labour Party member for 5 years and am currently the Executive Committee member for Plaistow North branch to the West Ham CLP. I work as a [REDACTED] and am a member of Unison. I have been described as [a] friendly and easily approachable individual. I am a passionate campaigner and have been on many campaigning sessions supporting the minority groups in the party, people with disabilities, people with mental health issues[,] and the housing.

    I am standing as the West Ham Labour LGBTQ+ officer to represent the LGBTQ+ members and community in the West Ham CLP. The Labour Party is a member based democratic socialist party that is inclusive and accessible to all the communities. I will ensure that LGBTQ+ members have a strong voice in the West Ham CLP and that they are fully involved in the work and campaigning of the local Labour Party. I will make certain that LGBTQ+ members take a leading role in reaching out and engaging with the local LGBTQ+ voters.

    If elected, I will make sure the all new LGBTQ+ members are communicated with on a regular basis, welcomed[,] and made felt part of the Labour Party family in West Ham. I will ensure that the LGBTQ+ members in West Ham are aware of social events which would include speakers. I will also hold events and street stalls to encourage more LGBTQ+ members to join the Labour Party and become become part of this fantastic movement under Jeremy Corbyn with having radical socialist ideals of ‘Rebuilding Britain’ for the many not the few.

    I want a society that is more equal, just, fair[,] and as Jeremy Corbyn puts it, ‘right to have a society where we live together freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance[,] and respect.’

    I respectfully ask for your support and the privilege to be your West Ham Labour LGBTQ+ officer to make a change and a real difference.

    Yours

    [REDACTED]

    My bolding shows 5 times the winner said “I will” do specific things for local LGBTQ+ party members and voters. But compare that to what Ophelia posted above, from the Airing of Grievances:

    His statement did not have one sentence about LGBT campaigning.

    The phrase “Liars for Jesus” comes to mind as one more way that transgender identitarianism is like religious fundamentalism.