A certain group of people

Oh that certain group of people.

I guess he’s never heard of women? I guess he has no idea that women have felt, and been, unsafe and unwelcome in society? I guess he has no idea that one of the many reasons women feel that way is that some men take advantage of isolated spaces to assault women? And that men are stronger than women, which means that women as a group are at a disadvantage compared to men as a group? And that’s why it’s not safe for women to share multi-user toilets with men?

You have to hand it to the “activists,” they have done a hell of a job convincing clueless men that men who say they are women are the most oppressed people in the universe and women are their oppressors.

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7 responses to “A certain group of people”

  1. Sastra Avatar

    I see this a lot: keeping women’s bathrooms for women means someone is going to have to have to stand at the door and check genitals, since some women look male and so many transwomen pass. “How do you enforce it, huh?”

    But it’s not about keeping a strict religious rule. There have always been the rare woman told “excuse me, this is the Ladies’” and a few words and the mistake cleared up and apologies offered. And if a trans woman genuinely passes and nobody knows, well, no harm no foul. Even GC feminists don’t care (I think.) The important thing about the rule or guideline or what have you is that it’s there. It keeps out the obvious problems, and retains the recognition that sex is a biological distinction.

    TRAs assume — or want to believe — that feminists are terrified of not knowing that an apparent woman is a TIM. Not really. I think TRAs are more afraid of a line being drawn for trans people, with the ability to quietly blend in on one side, and the right to noisily lay claim to the sex you KNOW you are, on the other.

  2. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    There’s never been anyone guarding the door against normal men… it’s just something that generally you don’t do. The barrier is social and that’s it.

    Utter bollocks.

  3. southwest88 Avatar

    This maddening claim again? That real women are clueless dolts who can’t tell men from women? Nah, miss me with that, TRAs. I have clocked men posing as women from their written comments and “hot takes” on issues without ever seeing their pictures. And up-close IRL, very very very few men can pass as women. Transgenderism is gas-lighting on a scale never seen before.

    Oh, speaking of gas-lighting, I see that silly PZ is still riding on the “biological sex does not even exist” bandwagon. I wouldn’t waste my time commenting there but the latest whine-fest about Idaho telling males to compete with males is turning into quite the BINGO card of TRA claims already.

  4. James Garnett Avatar
    James Garnett

    I see that silly PZ is still riding on the “biological sex does not even exist” bandwagon.

    I still don’t know why he veered off into those weeds. He certainly seemed to understand that biological sex is a real thing when, you know, he got married and had kids.

  5. iknklast Avatar

    At this point, if I were choosing a college either for myself or my children, I think I would avoid one where a Biology professor claims sex does not exist.

  6. Holms Avatar

    How on earth would this work? Is there going to be a security guard on every toilet door checking ID/the contents of everyone’s pants?

    Disingenuous, or blinkered thinking? Declaring a thing illegal has never meant, or been taken to mean, a police officer is needed to guard every possible location where Thing might take place. Home invasion is illegal, but obviously we don’t expect there to be a police officer per house, or even an officer per street full of houses.

    Making something illegal has never been expected to eliminate 100% of all instances of the banned thing taking place. Sometimes, it will still happen. Rather, the point of making something illegal has always been about discouragement, by giving the wronged recourse which might result in consequences for the wrongdoer.

    I’m far from the only man to have walked into the women’s toilets by mistake; all that happens is being told “I think you’re in the wrong toilet, this is the women’s”. At this point, I say “oops” and then turn exit, but if the male persists, in a region where males are banned from women’s toilets, this is prima facie evidence that the male is hanging around for dubious reasons, and she has a weapon to deploy to discourage the man: “I’ll call police”. And if the guy continues to hang around, well, she’ll call police.

    But in a region where males are permitted in any female-only space simply by calling themselves female, female-only spaces are abolished and the above pathway is gone. The woman no longer knows whether she should be worried about the motives of this guy, and that alone is a source of worry.

    #4 James

    He also knows all about sex and sexual dimorphism when talking about any organism on the planet except humans.

  7. Catwhisperer Avatar

    What does he mean, how would this work? What planet is he pretending to have just arrived from? It would work exactly the way it has “always” worked, that is to say, it would work the way every human alive today has always known it to work.