The Daily Mail again, sorry:
Two transgender women who viciously beat up and stamped on a teenager after he mocked them in central London have admitted they ‘overreacted,’ but have slammed Britain as ‘transphobic’.
Tamzin Lush and Tylah Bryan walked free from court last month after admitting violent disorder, alongside a third trans woman, Amarnih Lewis-Daniel, who has not since spoken out.
They were filmed beating up and stamping on a 19-year-old who mocked them and told them: ‘You’re not a woman. You need a f**** to be a woman’.
A fanny, that is, which here in the US is just very mild slang for butt/bum/ass/arse, so mild that it may have dropped out of use altogether, but in the UK is rude slang for The Lady Parts.
Anyway.
Now Lush, 29, and Bryan, 24, have spoken about the incident, admitting ‘we took it too far,’ as they said their actions were ‘entirely wrong’ after they reacted violently, spurred on by alcohol.
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The trans women said they faced abuse every day, but spoke about the attack, which was filmed outside Leicester Square tube station in 2018.
Bryan, from Barking, east London, said: ‘You get people that make passing comments and by the time they’ve said anything, they’re gone – they keep walking.
‘We were telling him to jog on and leave us alone. This guy was adamant to let us know his beliefs and it wasn’t just a passing comment.’
On the other hand it was just a comment, as opposed to slamming him to the platform and then kicking him.
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“Community orders.” Could a Brit explain what that means? Is that the normal British punishment for assault?
Can you believe the Daily Mail? Honestly I wouldn’t.
Never mind that what the kid said to them is f*ing TRUE.
Well in all fairness I don’t think confronting people on the street or the tube platform or any other random public place is an ok thing to do. Public discussion is one thing and hassling individuals is another. I don’t think the kid who got stomped is an innocent party, but I think his guilt doesn’t entitle them to stomp him.
Of course, that ‘abuse’ they suffer everyday may just be people saying “Mr.” or “dude” to them. TW have a very low threshold for abuse.
Ironically, if a young girl reacted with physical violence to a verbal confrontation, that would no doubt be described as “stereotypically male behavior” and evidence of gender dysphoria.
#2 Anna
The Daily Mail is frequently disingenuous, it will reliably take the conservative stance on things, but is not in the habit of making things up whole cloth. It’s a Murdoch rag, yes, but it is still subject to UK law in reporting.
PinkNews is on the case, taking the side of the violent men in dresses of course. The Mirror also reports on this, so I think I can safely say that this is definitely a thing that happened.
Regarding the particulars of the events, the Mirror has it thus:
So, the guy approached them an initiated the interaction, making him the start point of events. But then the trio followed him into the station and beat him unconscious. They were three drunk men, beating someone up for being mouthy, and continuing the attack well after he was unconscious – the footage is clear on this point, and absolutely disgusting.
One of the defendants said “This guy was adamant to let us know his beliefs and it wasn’t just a passing comment.” Not a passing comment? The guy said his thing and then left them there. So, a lie.
And then the judge on the matter does some classic victim blaming:
No amount of verbal abuse justified beating someone unconscious, but here is a judge that thinks it kinda does. But the judge’s comment that takes the cake in my view is:
“Escaped punishment altogether” is he for real?? The guy was beaten unconscious for his words.
Holms @7, yes, but then British judges have a long and not very proud history of blaming women for getting raped as well. We really shouldn’t be surprised. Angry and disgusted yes, but not surprised.
@Papito:
A Community Order is a sentence to be tailored to the seriousness and specifics of the crime and/or offender and carried out within a community. It usually involves some sort of restriction on the offender’s behaviour (curfew, bans from entering certain places) and may include elements of supervision (meetings with a probation officer), unpaid work in the community, programmes to tackle certain types of behaviour such as substance abuse or domestic violence, treatment for mental health issues etc.
For some reason I’m reminded of the asshole kids and the she-bears story from the bible.
Another reason I was confident the Mail wasn’t just making all this up is that I remember the story from when it happened – the violent beating by some trans women in the vicinity of Leicester Square (I didn’t remember that it was a tube platform).
(Leicester Square stuck in my mind, probably because it’s one of my least favorite bits of London, along with Oxford Street and Piccadilly Circus. Hell holes all of them.)