One great reason NOT to

They actually say it. Right out in the open! As if it makes perfect sense!

Yes, this is America, where dedicated researchers came up with effective vaccines for polio, to name one.

Here’s someone who would have been glad to have that vaccine available in 1921.

Franklin Roosevelt's battle with polio taught him lessons relevant today -  The Washington Post

If the vaccine had been available, and mandated, then the people who died or were more or less paralyzed in the decades before it was developed would have benefited.

Of course the people who tell us to get the vax have a right to do so. It’s a matter of public health, and it saves countless lives.

Making sure we “still act free” by refusing to get an effective vaccination during a lethal pandemic is childish, murderous, and beneath contempt.

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18 responses to “One great reason NOT to”

  1. Omar Avatar

    It gets worse. Covid-19 is no trifling disease, as the political Right would have you believe. Some get long-term complications; even die.

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

  2. GW Avatar

    Some get long-term complications; even die.

    Are you saying that some people have died of long COVID? (I don’t see that on that page that you linked, but maybe I’m missing it somehow.) Or are you simply referring to the well-known fact that some people die of the initials effects of the virus itself, within a few weeks?

  3. Omar Avatar

    The latter. I think that there has not yet been enough time to establish the former.

    BTW, one example of ‘conservative’ thinking on this topic is to be found at https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/liberty/2021/07/why-i-protested-yesterday-and-will-again/

  4. Holms Avatar

    The reasoning is impressive. Don’t take the vaccine because you are being told to take it. Show ’em they’re not the boss of you by doing the opposite of what they advise. Even if the advice is excellent, even if it prevents deaths, do the opposite because “shan’t”. Dying due to inexplicable idiocy will really stick it to those damn elites!

    I wonder what other health advice he advises people to ignore?

  5. musubk Avatar

    I will NOT eat my vegetables and you can’t make me!

  6. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    I will NOT get out of the path of that speeding car and you can’t m

  7. GW Avatar

    Maybe we should start telling them: “DON’T get the vaccine!” Then maybe they will start getting it?

  8. iknklast Avatar

    GW, maybe even protest and block the door of the clinics? Use Obama’s face? Obama says don’t get vaccinated?

    I had friends who had polio. Preventing that (and measles, mumps, whooping cough) was a big move in the right direction. Now we seem to want to move the opposite way. I bet our ancestors suffering through the plague wished they had a vaccine against it…or even the antibiotics that can deal with it.

  9. Mike Haubrich Avatar
    Mike Haubrich

    I’m going to tell them to go to hell when it’s time for my next TDAP, too. If I want tetanus, that’s my business.

  10. Omar Avatar

    I think that the most profound lump of bullshit contributed to that conversation was chucked in by ‘Daffy’ (appropriate moniker?)

    This is part of the observation of Chesterton: if people stop believing in God, they will start believing anything.

    On second thought, maybe Daffy has a point. If in future someone asks me ‘do you believe in God?’ and I answer ‘No’, I have an answer ready for the follow-up question: ‘What do you believe in, then?’

    ‘Anything.’ ;-)

  11. Screechy Monkey Avatar
    Screechy Monkey

    Omar,

    I don’t have the link handy, but there’s a recent study that showed that belief in various conspiracy theories (including antivax and QAnon) is still positively correlated with religiosity. The notion that people are turning to CTs because they’re less religious appears to be unfounded.

  12. Omar Avatar

    Screechy,

    The notion that people are turning to CTs because they’re less religious appears to be unfounded.

    As I would expect. The last big festival of CTs was the one following 9/11. But the only one that appears to me to have any credibility or base was regarding the 1963 Kennedy assasination.

  13. Omar Avatar

    And as if all that wasn’t enough, there is now a good old-fashioned donnybrook in progress INSIDE the Murdoch organisation.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/29/alan-jones-column-ended-daily-telegraph-covid-anti-lockdown-commentary

  14. Catwhisperer Avatar

    Thanks Ophelia, #6 made me spill my tea!

  15. Bruce Gorton Avatar

    Would it be a good, or a bad idea to tell Mataxas to breath?

  16. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    Does this guy stop at red lights, and railroad crossings when the gates are down? Does he remain seated with belt fastened on airliners when they’re taking off, landing, or experiencing turbulence? Does he read the instructions on medications? If so, then he’s already complied with lots of people “telling him” to do things.

  17. Brian M Avatar

    So much of right wing culture does seem to be “little boys stuck at age 13” level. I mean, look at the monster trucks, the ATVs, the overdone powerlifting and associated steroids.

  18. latsot Avatar

    A neighbour appears to have long COVID. She is quite seriously unwell. Her symptoms are rather like those of ME plus breathing difficulties, memory and focussing issues. She’s in her mid-50s, for all anyone knows she could have these symptoms for the rest of her life. Perhaps they’ll get worse. Perhaps she’ll die of it. She doesn’t know, which must be incredibly stressful.

    So on top of the cruelty of loved ones dying from COVID, often alone and afraid or in hospital plugged into machines that go BING… on top of that, they are just fine with the cruelty of subjecting people like my neighbour to a hugely debilitating disease and an uncertain prognosis.

    Somewhat ironically, she works for one of the pharmas producing COVID vaccines, but caught it before they were available for her age group.