Defining the definitions
The Scouts (UK) explain what “lesbian” means:
What’s the point of even having the word “lesbian” if that’s what it means? They might as well say “lesbian means attracted to everyone.” Attracted to women including men, says Scouts UK.
Meanwhile does anybody around here know how to put up a tent?
Scouts UK seems to be not into tents as much as they are umbrellas.
Umbrellas are so useful, because then you can say “trans” means anything and everything and nobody can tell you different.
Wouldn’t the men-who-identify-as-women-lesbians’ sexual partners, even if they are not trans, lesbians also? So you have two men, one trans, one not, yet both lesbians? Much watering down of definitions has to happen for any of this to work, and yet it still makes no sense.
Tents! :D
Umbrellas! Too much. :D
I could say something about gay men’s rejection of heterosexual TIFs. Or something about AGP’s preference for real women. Or the lived reality of sexual attraction of everyone who hasn’t drunk from this Kool-Aid. Instead I’ll just say this is insane on so many levels.
@# 5: And what about the FERKS (Feminist-Exclusive Radical Knucklefucking Shitheads.) ? Where do they fit into this scheme? And don’t foget the FUCKS; (Feminist Umbrella Carrying Koolaid Shunners.)
Who is that “anyone else”? Is that their dismissivie way of referring to actual women? Or is it yet a third category — “Trans women” = men that say that they are women, whereas “anyone else” consists of, say, cats, houses, and tractors that say that they are women?
I hate umbrellas. I’m always worried they’ll poke me in the eye.
Oh dear, at what point are they just going to come out and say they’re fine with adult men identifying as 14 year old girls sharing tents with tweens?
I think there are some “women” in the Girl Guides who would be perfectly happy to show you how they “pitch a tent.”
GW @ 7 – I think it’s just one more insult for good measure. If some huge bearded guy with a string of convictions for assault says he’s a woman then lesbians will be attracted to him.
So, am I too understand that it’s not the actual bodies of women that lesbians are attracted to, it’s the way they tilt their heads when they scream at them for being transphobic?
“You have to love me or I’ll put a video on TikTok! It’s not what’s my pants, it’s what’s in my heart, you TERF! So, I’ll pick you up at 7, then? Ta!”
Michael, only someone primitive, colonialist, and oppressive would think that physical attraction is about attraction to the physical.
And of course they never consider that lesbians are not equally attracted to all women. So if they do accept sex with TiMs (in which case, how are they lesbian?), that doesn’t mean they’ll have sex with the particular TiM staring them in the face crying “Love me!”.
Just like, as a heterosexual woman, I expect to be able to select with whom I have sex, and just because I am heterosexual it doesn’t mean I am equally attracted to all men; nor are all heterosexual men equally attracted to me as to, say, Scarlett Johanssen.
It seems reasonably easy to understand in a standard straight couple (though apparently not to incels or MRAs), so why is it so hard to understand in this instance? Just because she is a lesbian, and accepts you as a woman, it doesn’t mean she is attracted to you. Get a life.
iknklast #14, Get a life.
Are you speaking about pregnancy?
It’s becoming hard to follow all these ellipses we now use to refer to all these complex people categories.
Leaves this lesbian out entirely, as I don’t “identify as” anything.
Laurent @15
Perhaps reference to an old Saturday Night Live skit. William Shatner is on a panel at a science fiction convention. The fans are asking questions about Star Trek – about obscure stuff, little details about side characters and such. He tells then to stop obsessing about the show and “get a life”.
“Get a life” is something said to people who seem to care too much about unimportant things, or about things that are not their business; generally, obsessing about things they shouldn’t care about. It was not invented by Shatner nor invented for that skit. Wikipedia says the first OED citation is from 1983; the skit was in 1986.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_a_life_(idiom)