Not welcome in our city

There’s a Woman’s Place UK event in Bristol this evening; it just got started a few minutes ago.

Some people want to keep women out of Bristol.

Do gender critical women ever say things like “trans people are not welcome in our city”? I don’t think so. It sounds threatening as well as hostile and rude and unjust. We don’t think we own particular cities and get to keep other people out of them. We generally recognize “X people are not welcome in our city” as way too similar to slogans and placards from, say, protests against the integration of Little Rock Central High School.

But apparently it’s fine to say it about women meeting up with other women. “Women are not welcome in our city.” Okaaaaaaay…

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10 responses to “Not welcome in our city”

  1. Holms Avatar

    A new equation, trans rights = climate justice. The pile grows! Tans rights = climate justice, human rights, women’s rights, men’s rights, the right to sport, etc.

    Trans rights is everything, trans rights consumes all.

  2. iknklast Avatar

    Are GC feminists in the habit of doxxing people? I haven’t seen that much, but I’m not on Twitter or Facebook. Or is it just that they tend to post pictures of the protestors?

  3. Holms Avatar

    Remember the stoush that took place on I think it was ‘Speaker’s Corner’, where a man calling himself a woman (or nonbinary or whatever) took on a ~60 year old woman with blue hair, resulting in her camera being dashed to the ground? The exact justification given for that over on FTB was that taking photographs and posting them on twitter = doxxing.

  4. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Hey she didn’t and doesn’t have blue hair! She’s been a social media friend o’ mine ever since, and she’s also in the skeptic circles over there that haven’t gone all unskeptical about Magic Gender. Maria Maclachlan. She’s excellent value, as is her husband Alan Henness. Not a blue hair between the pair of them. She’s the famous example of a judge forcing a female assaultee to refer to her male assaulter as “she” in court.

  5. KBPlayer Avatar

    I suppose Extinction Rebellion is promoting rather than running the event themselves, but what on earth can climate justice have to do with trans rights? You could live in the most polluted city imaginable with full trans rights (whatever those are) or in a hunter gatherer society with a perfect ecological balance where trans types are outcasts.

    Mission creep and muddying your message can really damage a campaign. You waste your energies on irrelevant issues, and drive away people who would otherwise be supportive. It’s juvenile.

  6. iknklast Avatar

    The thing is, KBPlayer, they don’t really spend their time on any of those missions. They force other groups to perpetrate mission creep and buy in to trans rights. Then they capture them so thoroughly (like the ACLU) it’s hard to see that they practice their original mission at all anymore. I think that’s one reason they’ve been so successful; they’ve added that T to everything in the non-profit universe. That still leaves the question: why? Why do groups with an honest mission to help a marginalized group accept these white male AGP as the focus of their work?

  7. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Lordy. I don’t know anything about Extinction Rebellion. Yet another thing I need to know more about! Hashtag how can I ever keep up.

  8. James Garnett Avatar
    James Garnett

    Maria Maclachlan and Alan Henness are excellent, thoughtful people. The man who attacked her at Speakers Corner did so because she had a camera to record the expected violent attacks against the women gathered there, and attack they did, but he and his trans buddies (dressed up like thugs, with their faces concealed) claimed all sorts of outrageous things including that she was taller and stronger than him and started the physical abuse herself while they claimed to be standing on the sidelines peacefully protesting “terfs”. Fortunately, someone else had a video camera and got the entire thing from start to finish as he ran up to her and began punching her, knocking her camera to the ground. It also caught the fact that he has a good foot of height on her. The funny thing in this context is that there was no intent to dox these guys at all, but after that physical assault there was a concerted effort to find out who the assailant was (which was successful, and which resulted in charges being leveled and successfully pressed against him).

    Oh, and the context for that gathering of women? They were at Speakers Corner to decide where to take their meeting so that they could avoid those violent men. They hadn’t posted the final destination online, because they knew that the thugs would just show up there.

    Of course, all that is ancient history now, but she’s still active, and I recommend her website, where she is accumulating videos discussing similar issues:

    https://www.peaktrans.org/

  9. Dave Ricks Avatar

    “TERFS NOT WELCOME IN BRISTOL” is written in the font from the intro to Star Trek: The Original Series (1966-1969), so at least students are learning the classics.

    https://youtu.be/B594jsKbsss

  10. Nullius in Verba Avatar
    Nullius in Verba

    Do gender critical women ever say things like “trans people are not welcome in our city”?

    According to the “logic” of social justice, we do. After all, we deny their very existence! /s