Poking with a stick
Intersectional beyond the call of duty.
It’s “ironic” of course, which is to say it’s annoying on purpose rather than by accident, but it’s genuinely annoying all the same. In fact by rights annoying on purpose should be more annoying rather than less.
That “y’all” for one thing is extremely grating. The ironist is at Macquarie University in Sydney; “y’all” is not Australian argot. The ironist is not from the Southern US, much less a descendant of enslaved people.
But the “setting homework” is even more annoying.
And then the content of the “homework” is level 3 annoying. No, I won’t know that; no, I won’t mean that. No.
Who is Sandy O’Sullivan? A Fine Art PhD with a nice line in bullshit.
Sandy is a Wiradjuri transgender/non-binary person.
They are a 2020-2024 ARC Future Fellow, with a project titled Saving Lives: Mapping the influence of Indigenous LGBTIQ+ creative artists. The project will explore the unique contribution and influence of queer artists to understand how modelling complex identities contributes to the wellbeing of all First Nations’ peoples.
Since 1991 they have taught and researched across gender and sexuality, museums, the body, performance, design and First Nations’ identity. Sandy was the inaugural director of the Centre for Collaborative First Nations’ Research at Batchelor Institute in the Northern Territory…
I have to wonder how Wiradjuri Sandy really is though. I realize it’s taboo to question that kind of thing, but isn’t it also taboo to imply or hint or pretend that you’re more first nations or indigenous than you really are? Especially when it looks as if you’re doing it for academic glory?
I’m not as bossy as Sandy though. This isn’t homework; you don’t have to answer the questions.
That number 2 is, well, just that.
Y’all and folx, and handclapping, is all very patronizing, and instead of getting my attention with the intent to listen, acts as a “full stop” message that I have no interest in what comes next.
As an aside, another “Trans Awareness Week”? Is this just an Australian thing? Because I could swear that we here in the US just spent a whole month being scold-reminded of “Trans Awareness Month” with at least one “Trans Awareness Week” somewhat before that. I’m starting to think that the “awareness” being demanded is their own; hopefully they will grow up and realize what a mess they’re making of themselves soon.
I think we need a biology of the reproductive system awareness week.
Follow the “Fine Art PhD with a nice line in bullshit”.link and you can see how dark the skin of this (faux?) Aborigine actually is. Bullshit is multi-dimensional, unlike the O’Sullivan transgenitalia, which will be either male or female (and no prizes for guessing which.)
“Y’all” for some reason has become almost mandatory when scolding people. I’ve seen a ton of “Y’all need to stop…” tweets and posts from people who don’t appear to be from ones who would normally use that word.
I guess there’s nothing wrong with it, but to me it’s weird.
Saying someone “be like” something has also become a trend lately. Again, fine, but odd. But who knows why anything becomes trendy I guess.
The only people I exclude when I say “men and women” are boys and girls. I won’t be forced to recognize things that don’t exist, Professor Proselytizer.
I think there’s a little bit wrong with it. It’s affected, and used the way it is here it’s passive-aggressive. Lecturing people in a fake-friendly way is passive-aggressive.
There are 25 entries on the “international” portion of this collection of lists for LGBT awareness periods. There are an additional four for Australia and nine for the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_awareness_periods?wprov=sfla1
Y’all need to stop appropriating Southern dialect in pursuit of your ridiculous nonsense… *I* find it bloody offensive…
I don’t think it will be taboo for long if it is in Australia, it certainly isn’t in Canada. ‘Pretendians’ are proving to be a significant presence in academia, and it is producing real anger among First Nations.
Saying ‘y’all’ is just the thing to ensure I don’t listen, because I have (I willingly admit) a prejudice against southern accents. I tune out right away.
Holy fuck, another gender idenniny calendar period!
Agreed. It excludes girls and boys. Also you used the operator OR, which necessarily excludes one of the options. The inclusive operator is AND. Sloppy writing.
If saying ‘men [and] women’ necessarily excludes certain people, then #2 is impossible – they are excluded regardless of intending to include them. If on the other hand ‘men and women’ can be made to include certain people by intending it to include them, then #1 is untrue. Sloppy thinking.
Looking at that profile I am getting some heavy Dolezal vibes. But this woman is even more pale, easily passing for white no matter the truth of the claimed aboriginal Australian descent.
Holms, looking at the profile, I get the distinct impression this woman isn’t a woman. Not just pale, but male.
“Y’all” is very often used, at least by gender identity ideologues, for the purposes of reverse no-true-Scotsmaning.
It’s used to imply that a large group of people hold some ludicrous caricature of an already crazy view, then as an increasing number of counter-examples are presented, the target of the y’all switches to smaller and smaller groups, right down to some girl who goes to a different school, who you wouldn’t know.
It’s both more socially acceptable and more slippery by nature than “you people” because of implausible deniability (“oh, I didn’t mean all feminists are in favour of eating babies, how could you possibly have thought that?”) and because it can more easily slip in either direction, depending on how the argument is going (“no no no, I meant feminists in general which might or might not include this group specifically”).
But, most importantly, if this conversation is taking place on Twitter (and it usually is) the y’all is right there at the top of the thread, with its original implication, and that’s what most people will see.
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“”Misgendering, in my experience towards me, only ever happens for one reason: they don’t believe my gender & nothing I do can convince them. So all I need is for them to comply,” he tweeted the same day. ”
Trans professor does not give students choice about using their pronouns? Read the tweet. https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=18765
“They don’t believe my gender…all I need is for them to comply.”
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Interesting article. The professor (the very Sandy O’Sullivan under discussion) demands that students provide their own “preferred pronouns”, and if they don’t, the professor will use “they/them” when referring to them individually. I think the “comply” part was about providing pronouns. But it’s not clear. The article says that a minority of LGBTQ students specify pronouns; this is what comes from throwing the TQ in with the LGB, as there is no reason whatsoever that gay, lesbian, and bisexual people would find it necessary to provide bespoke pronouns. It is possible that O’Sullivan meant “comply” to include “use” as well as “provide”, but he seemed to be talking more about his own use of pronouns for the students than demanding that students speak a certain way.
O’Sullivan is referred to as “trans they/them” in his Twitter profile, but the article uses “he”. I am not certain. His Twitter stream includes a strong complaint about a women’s organization that changed its rules and rescinded penalties for “misgendering” and “deadnaming”.
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