Here’s a strange thing: Club Q in Colorado Springs describes itself as a gay or gay and lesbian adult bar, yet most of the headlines call it LGBTQ+. When did adding the TQ+ become absolutely mandatory with no exceptions? Why can’t lesbians and gay men organize and talk and agitate as lesbians and gay men? Why are they being forced to add trans people, when being trans is not the same thing as being lesbian or gay?
CNN: What we know about the suspect in the Colorado Springs LGBTQ nightclub shooting
NBC News: Live updates: Colorado LGBTQ nightclub shooting victims mourned as community pushes for answers
Washington Post: Shooting at popular LGBTQ club in Colorado Springs leave at least 5 dead
ABC News: Colorado club shooting updates: Suspect named after 5 dead, dozens injured at LGBTQ nightclub
Reuters: Colorado Springs police probe motive in LGBTQ nightclub
Thanks to all this forced teaming we get bullying crap like this from relentless bully Billy the bully Bragg:
They specifically excluded plumbers, ballet dancers, miners, academics, astronauts, poets, too; so what? What law is it that says an alliance of lesbians, gays and bisexuals has to name-check trans people?
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They technically included trans & queer identified people when they spoke of victims. Since it only opened recently and was “Club Q” (presumably for queer) — and the shooting took place on the Trans Day of Remembrance— it could very well have been aimed at trans people. It wasn’t really a gay club.
So I think in this case the LGB Alliance should have said something to recognize that the senseless hatred was also directed at trans & queer too, leaving out the acronym. Maybe “we stand in solidarity with the LGB community and all Gender-Nonconforming People …”
One of the victims was a TIF who worked as a bartender. “He” was happy to have found community at the club.
I don’t know how Club Q describes itself. I did see that Google provides a description of “Adult-oriented gay & lesbian nightclub hosting theme nights such as karaoke, drag shows & DJs”, but I don’t know the provenance. The web site and Facebook page did not list a description. An article I found about the founding of the club said that the owners examined the successful clubs, which were “gay as hell” (meaning, I think, flamboyant and outrageous, based on context), and decided to “out-gay” them. But they did name the club with Q, so perhaps they were not onboard with “gay not queer” sentiment.
Ah, it apparently opened 21 years ago. I thought it opened in ‘21.
To be fair (to me) I said “Club Q in Colorado Springs describes itself as a gay or gay and lesbian adult bar” because it does. I had seen it doing so, and that’s why I wrote the post.
I documented it in the next post.
@Ophelia;
Right. Though it looks like at least one of the victims (shot, not killed) is a trans lesbian so it might be wrong to refer to it as a LGB bar. Some of the clients are straight.
But the two gay men who established it call it a gay bar. Surely it’s their call, whether some of the clients are straight or not. I mean if it calls itself a gay bar but throws out gay people while welcoming straights, sure, but otherwise I think they probably know what it is better than CNN and NBC do.
A Facebook friend of mine went to Club Q three years ago. The event she attended was private–a baby shower for a lesbian friend–but she says the vibe of the place was more trans and “queer” than gay or lesbian.