Who's this bloke on Woman's Hour talking about what a woman is?
— Helen Saxby (@helensaxby11) April 7, 2022
My paperback is out on May 5th. Would love to come on and talk to @BBCWomansHour about it. But radio silence (literally) https://t.co/jKuTuFPr9u
— Helen Joyce (@HJoyceGender) April 7, 2022
Did we just hear the death knell of transactivism for a radio 4 audience? Can we give Lavery more of a platform? He’s just said he wants the queen to die & that ordinarily ppl are too thick to understand that women have penises.
— Jo Bartosch (@jo_bartosch) April 7, 2022
If you want to know the real difference between men and women, just listen to the @Emmabarnett @BBCWomansHour interview with Grace Lavery today and then compare and contrast with the @MForstater interview a couple of weeks ago.
— Helen Saxby (@helensaxby11) April 7, 2022
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9 responses to “This bloke on Woman’s Hour”
I like the photo with the fabric covering the five o’clock shadow. And the mouth–how ladylike.
And coquettish. Obviously a woman.
Sall Grover has also contacted Woman’s Hour about the Giggle App, but no reply:
https://twitter.com/salltweets/status/1512018916456894467
Caveat: I haven’t sourced the quote.
Women’s Voices on Twitter:
The lacy fabric also covers the Adam’s apple. Presenting dishonestly – that’s what it means to be a woman. Right.
I’ve seen that quotation @ 4 in the past and I saw it a few more times earlier this morning in connection with the Woman’s Hour outrage and I just tried to find the source and…couldn’t do it. Multiple hits but they’re all just the “” itself, passed back and forth. Maybe he said it in an interview – it seems to originate on March 7 2021.
@4 Maybe he thinks that women are supposed to enjoy abuse from toxic males, and so the best way to indulge his highly submissive masochism is to (try to) be a woman. I wonder how many ‘transwomen’ are afflicted with that particular fetish. I guess it doesn’t matter that actual women aren’t generally like that, not any women that I know at least.
(If he really said it and really feels that way, that is, and it’s not just spectacle.)
@4, @6:
I’ve seen it attributed to him all over the internet over the past year or so, but never did the research on it. Maybe someone can ask him on Twitter where he said it, and maybe he’ll even own up to it (if indeed he said it). I don’t have a Twitter account, and he has probably already blocked many of the other participants here, but perhaps someone?
@7 of course it’s difficult to search online for evidence about this, but I do recall reading several higher-profile TIMs talking about how much they enjoy it (pretty sure Munroe Bergdorf was one of them). Here are a few receipts from Ovarit:
https://archive.ph/1f1Jw
https://ovarit.com/o/ItsAFetish/39197/https-www-vice-com-en-article-zn7b79-enjoying-catcalls-paris-lees-column
https://uploads.ovarit.com/08cf3866-08d4-55e7-9534-3b7c70fedd80.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns/comments/8l13fc/getting_catcalled_for_the_first_time_as_a_trans/