Sigh.

“Trans people are amongst the most marginalized, amongst the most abused, in our communities”

No they’re not. That’s an endlessly repeated bit of doggerel but doggerel is all it is. It’s an empty platitude that pops out any time someone presses the right button (which is extremely often).

There are so many kinds of people who are far more marginalized and abused than trans people – poor people for a start; disabled people; refugees; immigrants; people fleeing violence; abused women; abused children – the list is endless. Being trans at all is a luxury. It’s simply not credible that trans people are high on the list of people who desperately need help and protection.

“…and I think we can do better than trying to paint them all as dangerous predators.”

Nobody is doing that. She’s either stupid or a liar. The issue is that nobody knows which men who identify as trans are dangerous predators, and that the mandate for inclooosion of men in women’s refuges and hospital beds and prisons has no way to screen out dangerous predators.

What about the Women’s Institute, the interviewer asks.

“Look I think there is a huge challenge around how we can make sure both women’s rights are upheld and trans people’s rights are supported”

Well step one is defining what those rights are.

“I always find it fascinating that we argue endlessly about whether trans women should have access to the Girl Guides and the WI, nobody makes the same argument about trans men and whether they should have access to, I dunno, rugby clubs or whatever”

Ffs. Of course nobody does! That’s because women are the ones who are starting from 100 paces back while men are not. She can’t be that stupid.

“and I just think that we have to have a rational discussion about this”

We are. We have been, for years.

“and recognize that there aren’t huge societal problems around trans issues”

Oh I see, we have to have a rational discussion about this in order to come to her preferred conclusion that issues about men in women’s spaces and sports and awards are not huge problems.

“this is a marginalized group of society who absolutely need support and I’m inclined to say when it comes to the WI that they should be entitled to make their own decision”

That is, that men who say they are trans (who are marginalized and need support because trans) should be entitled to make their own decision to invade the WI if they jolly well feel like it. Women just don’t matter here.

She goes on to complain about the “toxicity” of the discussion – on both sides of course – and the interviewer points out that in reality men are the ones who present a risk to women, whereupon she pretends to be wholly unaware that men have physical advantages over women which some men exploit to abuse, rape, or kill women. She then, astoundingly, repeats the “trans people are amongst the most marginalized, amongst the most abused, in our communities” mantra, word for word.