Ok ok ok we lied but still THERE’S LIMITED RESEARCH.
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11 responses to “Correction BUT”
iknklast
Gee, could the limits of research be because trans athletes in women’s sports are a new enough phenomenon there hasn’t been time for a comprehensive study? Could it be because anytime anyone (except trans-biased) tries to research it, they are shut down? Could it be a combination of both? I wonder…
Alan Peakall
You just prompted me to perform a web search for “no evidence of an intent to mislead”. It turns up three pages of hits!
Holms
Even if transitioning tanked their performance to below that of the female average, they’re still male and hence barred from the female division. Low performance in the tough division does not mean free entry to an easier competitive field.
Nullius in Verba
Failure to understand burden of proof.
One must show that a gun is not loaded, not that it is. It is on Genderists to demonstrate their claim that male advantage is completely erased, not on everyone else to show that it isn’t.
And regardless, as I will repeat to everyone’s boredom, it’s a red herring. Female sports are for females, no matter how unathletic or incompetent those males may be.
Lady Mondegreen
Ha, loving Victoria Smith’s* comment–
There’s millennia of evidence that male people who say they’re male have a physical advantage, but the jury’s still out on male people who say they’re not male
* aka Glosswitch
Lady Mondegreen
Nullius, gawd, that failure to understand burden of proof. It’s endemic among TRAs and their supporters enablers. Most will agree that male people don’t belong in women’s changing rooms, prison housing, etc. But trans-identified males are OK. Why? Because they’re trans. But how do you know males are safer on average than any others? Because they’re TRANS, you terf. QED.
maddog1129
Entirely unsurprising that there is “limited research” on what happens if male athletes gatecrash women’s sports at women’s elite levels. That’s because no one thought that men should (or would) gatecrash women’s sports — at any level — before this gender delusion gripped so many people who pretend not to even know what a woman is any more. It’s beyond ridiculous. “No thank you.”
Nullius in Verba
Lady M, isn’t it just? They straight-up assert that the burden is reversed and call anyone who disagrees a bigot, and it’s all just another example of widespread transphobia against people who just want to pee compete in an easier division.
Smells like DARVO to me.
iknklast
But trans-identified males are OK. Why? Because they’re trans
TWAW. That covers everything for them. If they are women, of course they should be in women’s sports. After all, some women are bigger than other women. Some women are stronger than other women. So if TWAW, checkmate, TERFs!
Of course, in my opinion, the burden of proof is on them to demonstrate that TW are in fact W. Sagan covered that with extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but they hide it every time they say trans women. If they said Men can be women must by saying, then their whole claim would be seen as ridiculous, but when they simply say self-ID, it doesn’t say that to people, because most people haven’t been paying attention. It sounds right and fair.
The idea that there is such a thing as a “girl dick” which GC feminists should suck for not believing this male organ belongs to a female – I think most people would understand if they heard that, but they only hear what is in whatever media they consume.
And most people don’t know whether a trans-woman is a man who thinks he is a woman, or a woman who thinks she is a man. I had to explain that to my husband, and he is a news junkie. It just isn’t laid out clearly enough what these terms mean.
Lady Mondegreen
iknklast @9
And most people don’t know whether a trans-woman is a man who thinks he is a woman, or a woman who thinks she is a man
Which confusion has now gone national in horrific circumstances (the mass shooting in Nashville.)
Nullius in Verba
And which confusion is either entirely intentional or a result of a horrifying form of memetic natural selection.
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11 responses to “Correction BUT”
Gee, could the limits of research be because trans athletes in women’s sports are a new enough phenomenon there hasn’t been time for a comprehensive study? Could it be because anytime anyone (except trans-biased) tries to research it, they are shut down? Could it be a combination of both? I wonder…
You just prompted me to perform a web search for “no evidence of an intent to mislead”. It turns up three pages of hits!
Even if transitioning tanked their performance to below that of the female average, they’re still male and hence barred from the female division. Low performance in the tough division does not mean free entry to an easier competitive field.
Failure to understand burden of proof.
One must show that a gun is not loaded, not that it is. It is on Genderists to demonstrate their claim that male advantage is completely erased, not on everyone else to show that it isn’t.
And regardless, as I will repeat to everyone’s boredom, it’s a red herring. Female sports are for females, no matter how unathletic or incompetent those males may be.
Ha, loving Victoria Smith’s* comment–
* aka Glosswitch
Nullius, gawd, that failure to understand burden of proof. It’s endemic among TRAs and their
supportersenablers. Most will agree that male people don’t belong in women’s changing rooms, prison housing, etc. But trans-identified males are OK. Why? Because they’re trans. But how do you know males are safer on average than any others? Because they’re TRANS, you terf. QED.Entirely unsurprising that there is “limited research” on what happens if male athletes gatecrash women’s sports at women’s elite levels. That’s because no one thought that men should (or would) gatecrash women’s sports — at any level — before this gender delusion gripped so many people who pretend not to even know what a woman is any more. It’s beyond ridiculous. “No thank you.”
Lady M, isn’t it just? They straight-up assert that the burden is reversed and call anyone who disagrees a bigot, and it’s all just another example of widespread transphobia against people who just want to
peecompete in an easier division.Smells like DARVO to me.
TWAW. That covers everything for them. If they are women, of course they should be in women’s sports. After all, some women are bigger than other women. Some women are stronger than other women. So if TWAW, checkmate, TERFs!
Of course, in my opinion, the burden of proof is on them to demonstrate that TW are in fact W. Sagan covered that with extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but they hide it every time they say trans women. If they said Men can be women must by saying, then their whole claim would be seen as ridiculous, but when they simply say self-ID, it doesn’t say that to people, because most people haven’t been paying attention. It sounds right and fair.
The idea that there is such a thing as a “girl dick” which GC feminists should suck for not believing this male organ belongs to a female – I think most people would understand if they heard that, but they only hear what is in whatever media they consume.
And most people don’t know whether a trans-woman is a man who thinks he is a woman, or a woman who thinks she is a man. I had to explain that to my husband, and he is a news junkie. It just isn’t laid out clearly enough what these terms mean.
iknklast @9
Which confusion has now gone national in horrific circumstances (the mass shooting in Nashville.)
And which confusion is either entirely intentional or a result of a horrifying form of memetic natural selection.