Like with like

You’d think the Times would know how to report on this subject accurately.

Tory rebels seek ban on conversion therapy

Rishi Sunak is facing a fresh Commons row after a group of Tory MPs threw their weight behind a bill to ban conversion therapy.

Former senior ministers and the first openly transgender MP are among those who have co-sponsored a private member’s bill to clamp down on the practice.

Sunak backed away from the long-promised ban on attempts to change someone’s sexuality and gender identity by not including it in his King’s Speech last month.

Sexual orientation is one thing and “gender identity” is very much another. That means reporting shouldn’t talk about “conversion therapy” as if it applied to both.

The bill will ban conversion practices where the “predetermined purpose is to change or suppress a person’s sexuality, or change or suppress a person to or from being transgender”.

Two different things. Mashing them together a disastrous mistake. Go back; redo.

Comments

3 responses to “Like with like”

  1. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    Sexual orientation is one thing and “gender identity” is very much another. That means reporting shouldn’t talk about “conversion therapy” as if it applied to both.

    Two different things. Mashing them together a disastrous mistake. Go back; redo.

    All part of the forced teaming plan. Transactivists successfully branded “watchfull waiting” as conversion therapy in Canada, too. I remember writing my MP about this when a similar “conversion therapy” bill lumped both together here. I explained the differences between the two concepts, and the danger posed by “transing away the gay,” and she still wrote back saying how “proud” she was to have supported the bill. I wrote about it here in Miscellany Room 6: https://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2020/miscellany-room-6/#comment-2839219

    This was her response at the time. She either didn’t read my letter, or chose not to respond to the points I made. (I never bothered with a follow-up.) Bolding mine.

    Thank you for reaching out to my office to share your position on Bill C-6.

    This Bill bans forcing those under the age of 18 years to undergo a discredited, deeply traumatic practice termed conversion therapy that devalues someone’s worth as a human being because of who they are. It further prohibits advertising conversion therapy for financial gain.

    Conversion Therapy, in using the term “therapy”, assumes that there is something wrong with an individual that needs to be fixed. This legislation protects the rights afforded by the Charter to LGBTQ2 Canadians, including young people just beginning to explore their identity.

    Bill C-6 does not criminalize discussions between any person and a family member, friend, community leader or medical expert to discuss issues of sexuality or gender identity. Those will still happen.

    I was proud to support this Bill and will continue to support it as written while it moves through the legislative process. It has been a long time coming.

    Thank you for reaching out.

    JFC. The whole concept of “transness” is built upon the idea that there is something wrong with an individual that needs to be fixed. How much more “wrong” can one be than being “born in the wrong body?”

  2. Freemage Avatar

    Interesting bit of wording in that bill, though. I’d argue that a great deal of therapy young kids are receiving these days has a “predetermined purpose is to change … a person to … being transgender”. I wonder if the advocates will catch the danger to them there. Tavistock, for instance, was absolutely guilty of pushing transition with scarcely any actual analysis.

  3. Papito Avatar

    Yes, Freemage, but are they suppressing them to being transgender? Or are they inspiring them? Suppressing is something only the baddies do – and they do it in all directions.