Guest post: The liberal ecosystem promotes social triangulation

Originally a comment by Artymorty on Call it a mishap.

When liberal institutions like the CBC pull boneheaded moves like this, they only inflame the biases they’re attempting to quell.

Bigots are emboldened when they see liberals denying the terrorist nature of the 9/11 attacks, or claiming Jason Arday was a victim of “lynching”, etc.

DEI hysteria, Islamophobia panics, transphobia panics, homophobia panics, racism panics. All of these cases of liberal overreach are used to justify conservative overreach — they drive conservatives to become overly dimissive of the very causes liberals hold dear. And thus the culture war grinds on.

You’d think the CBC would be easing off on its overzealous “woke” bias, given that cries for its defunding on the political right are growing ever louder, but no: here they are, doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on the very behaviour that infuriates, emboldens, and validates their critics.

The same can be said for much of the academic humanities, arts institutions, NGOs, publishing, cultural organizations. Faced with mounting hostility from outside, they’ve largely responded by pushing back harder rather than asking whether any part of the criticism is warranted.

The question surrounding all of this is: why?

That’s really one of the great questions of our political age. I’m struggling to piece together a theory.

What I’ve got so far is that liberalism and the political left have undergone a cultural shift: away from a culture of actively open-minded thinking and toward a meta-social culture.

Liberal intellectual culture has historically placed considerable prestige on skepticism, critical thinking, intellectual experimentation and standing apart from the crowd. Challenging the prevailing liberal consensus could itself be understood as a liberal act. Now, the social incentives run in the other direction: what matters is positioning oneself correctly within the moral and political landscape of the group.

This can be understood as a shift from first-order thinking to second-order thinking: where once the liberal ecosystem promoted thinking for oneself — What do I think? Is this true? What does the evidence say? — now it promotes social triangulation: you predict what others in your group believe, then you come to believe things (or at least profess to) that would position you most favourably among your peers. What do people like me think? What do the people I oppose think? What will my peers infer about me if I say this? Who will be helped if I concede that point? Where does this belief position me socially?

Of course, to some extent, everybody has always done a bit of both. But the second set of questions has gained significant authority over the first.

Once second-order thinking has overtaken first-order thinking, beliefs cease to be anchored to material reality by the principles of critical inquiry. They start resembling a chain gang: everyone’s beliefs attached to everyone else’s, each person taking cues from the people around them, a mass formation, ungrounded and adrift. That’s when you get the feedback loop, the purity spiral, the madness of crowds, the stampede — pick your metaphor. A position shifts slightly. Everyone notices and adjusts, each adjustment becoming fresh information for everyone else. Everyone is using everyone else as “evidence,” and the whole formation veers off on a tangent.

So what changed? I think at least two enormous forces helped push liberal culture away from first-order inquiry and toward this more meta-social, second-order mode.

The first is social media.

The behavioural ecology of social media is unusually hostile to the expression of actively open-minded thinking. AOT asks you to slow down, entertain contrary evidence, tolerate uncertainty and risk changing your mind. By contrast, with its likes, reposts, ratios and pile-ons, social media makes the social landscape quantitatively visible, with social reward and punishment data continually feeding you in real-time. This makes the meta-social layer highly salient — you’re bombarded with information telling you what other people are thinking about what you’re thinking. This is practically a machine to drive people to prioritize second-order thought: see what gets applause; see what gets punished; learn where the boundaries are; adjust.

The second change is ideological homogeneity.

Liberalism has become the overwhelmingly dominant political identity within many of the institutions I’m talking about (culture, etc.). That changes what dissent means inside those environments.

When the surrounding establishment is conservative, challenging establishment assumptions can easily coincide with liberalism. When the surrounding establishment is itself liberal, genuine open-mindedness requires challenging your own people, and that is psychologically harder to do.

Thus, these institutions have shifted to a coalitional mindset: liberalism as a political identity has quietly displaced liberalism as an epistemic ethic. The prime directive shifted from What principles should we apply? to What position should our side take against theirs? Us-versus-them reasoning moved upstream of critical inquiry.

Social media then supercharged the whole thing. Ideologically homogeneous institutions supplied the coalition; social media supplied the surveillance and instantaneous reward system. Together they activated some extremely old primate tribal machinery: conformity, status sensitivity, fear of ostracism, coalition loyalty, imitation.

So I suppose that’s at least part of the answer to why.

Then comes the harder question: how do we fix it?

I don’t know. But it’s got to come from the leadership. The heads of schools, media outlets, non-profits, they have to take concrete, active steps to re-engineer the ecosystems they lead, altering the incentive structures of the institutions they run. They have to create environments in which challenging consensus is professionally safe, changing your mind is treated as intellectual strength, disagreement isn’t automatically interpreted as disloyalty, and people gain rather than lose prestige for identifying errors in their own side’s thinking.

In other words, they have to make actively open-minded thinking socially rewarding again.

(MAOTSRA! Where’s my hat?)

I imagine some absurdly grand gathering of liberal institutional heads convened specifically to confront the problem. Davos for editors-in-chief, university deans, publishers, arts administrators and nonprofit CEOs.

Or perhaps the analogy needs to be even more ridiculous.

Paris, 1919.

The war is over; liberal democracy has survived, just barely. Everyone arrives with maps under their arms. The borders have collapsed, several empires are in ruins, nobody entirely trusts anybody else, and somehow a roomful of exhausted people has to decide what the liberal world is supposed to look like now.

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17 responses to “Guest post: The liberal ecosystem promotes social triangulation”

  1. guest Avatar

    ‘What do people like me think? What do the people I oppose think? What will my peers infer about me if I say this? Who will be helped if I concede that point? Where does this belief position me socially?’

    I have listened to extremely intelligent friends ask themselves these questions out loud and consequently argue themselves into false and ridiculous positions on many topics.

  2. guest Avatar

    ‘What do people like me think? What do the people I oppose think? What will my peers infer about me if I say this? Who will be helped if I concede that point? Where does this belief position me socially?’

    I have listened to extremely intelligent friends ask themselves these questions out loud and consequently argue themselves into false and ridiculous positions on many topics.

  3. Artymorty Avatar

    @guest

    I have listened to extremely intelligent friends ask themselves these questions out loud and consequently argue themselves into false and ridiculous positions on many topics.

    Yes, that’s exactly it, isn’t it. These are the questions they get caught up in, and the consequence of being so hung-up on them is that they very quickly, ver completely, lose sight of reason. “False and ridiculous positions on many topics” are consequently unavoidable.

    But let’s be clear: they’re still CRAZY! Alas, no matter how hard I try to make sense of this insanity, it always still registers as total insanity.

    Nothing we can do about that, I suppose. We can observe it, but that alone doesn’t negate or change it.

  4. Alan Peakall Avatar

    If it is true that the “remedy has to come from leadership”, then we need to examine the incentives acting on potential leaders. It appears to me that the rhetorical imperative for solidarity against reactionary populism is creating a “we-cannot-afford-to-fail” mindset which is depriving the liberal centre of the discipline of acknowledging policy failures and is stultifying the internal dynamism of constructive politics.

  5. Artymorty Avatar

    @Alan

    God, that couldn’t be more true. But if that mindset is going to break, it must happen at the top, and push a break in thinking downward by force. That’s what I’ve come to believe after so many years of watching the mess grow. I think we must target the leaders in our push for change, and let them do the work of propagating it down to the rest of liberaldom.

  6. Dave Ricks Avatar

    This Artymorty guest post reminds me of a moment in 2001: A Space Oddessy, if I remember this scene in the movie correctly.

    The apes wake up to the Monolith. They begin screaming. An ape close to the camera wakes up to the screaming. The ape looks left and sees the thing. Then the ape looks right at the other apes.

    To me, it’s like: I see the thing. But what do you think of the thing? To me, that ape represents the first and second order thinking in this thread, where the second order thinking is social.

  7. Stewart Avatar

    I don’t know about the solution but you’ve certainly given us an admirable description of the problem. Which is a necessary first step in a better direction.

  8. guest Avatar

    One particular conversation I remember was with a feminist friend involved in humanitarian relief, someone with all the ‘correct’ credentials (although a GC lesbian) explaining why she had to ‘oppose’ Posie Parker’s positive work on GC issues because Parker is (with some justification) associated with the ‘far right’ and she didn’t want anyone on the outside looking in to think she might also be associated with them. ‘So it’s a question of optics’ I finally said, ‘not of actual content’ and she couldn’t deny it.

  9. Lulu Avatar

    This is such an insightful post -such food for thought! I sometimes self-censor in groups of liberal friends because I don’t want to add another item to the list of heresies I seemingly support. I’d started to question whether I’ve moved to the right or am stuck in time but you’ve made me think it’s about a way of thinking and a willingness to question things. Which makes me feel better about myself, so thanks for that! As for our liberal leaders, I don’t know who they are. I’d have thought university and union leaders but they seem to be entirely given over to group think and witch hunts. We really do need a plan or the right will continue to face an open goal

  10. Coel Avatar

    So I drop by for the first time in months, just to see what’s happening here, and the first thing I see is an astute and spot-on comment by Artymorty. Yes! To add two things:

    On: “… it’s got to come from the leadership”. Equally, it’s also got to bubble up from the rank and file. Everyone, in their everyday conduct in conversations and on blogs, needs to ask themselves whether they are reinforcing the problem or helping to reduce it.

    Leaders often look at which way the wind is blowing before deciding which way to “lead”.

    Secondly: a big part of the problem is the presumption that anyone who disagrees with you must be doing so in bad faith.

    The “progressive” left have adopted the Bond Villain theory of politics: people who disagree with them are bad people, they know full well that they are bad people, and are arguing in bad faith for ulterior motives.

    This is almost never the case. People who disagree with you might be misinformed, mistaken and misunderstanding, but they are almost always holding their positions in good faith, just as you do.

    If you don’t understand how someone could be holding a radically different opinion in good faith, thinking that they are correct on the evidence and arguments, just as you do, then you are part of the problem, and the fault lies with you for your lack of understanding (I’m using “you” here in a general sense, not for any particular side of any particular argument).

    I see that, in the original thread with Artymorty’s comment, a reply just accuses the right of acting in bad faith. Sigh.

    The right (in general, not every single person) are arguing in good faith; so are the left; so are the centrist-minded people; so is everyone on every side of every major contentious issue.

    Do you think you could pick a position that you utterly disagree with, and then write a couple of paragraphs putting forward the reasons people hold that position, such that your opponent would then agree that you’ve fairly represented them? If you can’t then you’re unlikely to be persuasive in arguing against them.

    But, as Artymorty rightly says, too many are not interested in discussion or trying to persuade — they already “know” that they’re right, and they already “know” that their opponents know that they are wrong — and are instead signaling tribal loyalty and seeking “likes”.

  11. guest Avatar

    Relevant section from a book I’m reading – this is about antisemitism, but it obviously applies to any political position (or even positions on things that never used to be explicitly ‘political’ – one of these that continues to baffle me is the politicisation of eating less/unprocessed food):

    ‘I followed Ratnavale’s project with interest as he launched a new school association, wondering if it might be just as polarizing as some of the choices of the National Association of Independent Schools had become. Indeed, Ratnavale quickly found an audience on the political right, hosting his next conference in tandem with a conservative political group. This raised even more questions than it answered. He had discovered that the norm-setting “mainstream” institutions in his field were not in fact apolitical or mainstream, and that their political orthodoxies directly interfered with their educational work. But the audience for something new seemed to simply want a different flavor of politics. I was puzzled by how inevitable this felt. Ratnavale’s commitment to pluralism, ideological and otherwise, could not have been more serious. But the polarized climate, including the federal government’s aggressive campaign against elite universities, had made Ratnavale’s deeply sincere “allyship against antisemitism” seem in some circles like a “right-wing” cause. Meanwhile, other parts of the political right were hard at work tarring Jews as the ultimate leftists. By late 2025, right-wing online influencers with audiences of tens of millions were mainlining Holocaust denial and old-school antisemitic conspiracy theories about Jews manipulating the American government, with some non-fringe institutions going along for the ride. In those extreme circles of the political right, overtures to “allyship against antisemitism” were similarly seen as caving to the political left. I saw that this dynamic itself was bound up in the workings of antisemitism, which was to discredit Jews by claiming that they were subjugating a group’s ideals, no matter what those ideals were.’

    https://www.darahorn.com/book/the-final-solution-to-the-jewish-question

  12. John Reed Avatar

    A minor observation: there’s a typo in the title.

    “Triangulation”

  13. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Oops, it sure does; thank you.

  14. iknklast Avatar

    I sometimes self-censor in groups of liberal friends because I don’t want to add another item to the list of heresies I seemingly support

    I understand this feeling! Currently my major social contacts are theatre people. They are perhaps the absolutely worst at accepting some of the most ridiculous ideas of the ‘progressive’ left. They believe science is something done by dead white males (who really aren’t doing science anymore, so get a grip), so showing them the science is not useful. They also believe science is biased (scientists are, of course, which is why there are a lot of methods to try to reduce bias, and also why science does get things wrong, but that isn’t really enough for your side, or shouldn’t be; you need to be able to show why and how they got it wrong). They are also very prone to ‘anything my enemy believes is wrong, wrong, wrong,’ so knee jerk opposition is the norm.

    If I ever want to have plays produced, I have to self-censor. If I had a few millions, I could put on my own plays and say whatever I want, but in the absence of that, I rely on other people for many aspects of my life. We all do, and that makes it hard to fight against the dominant paradigm. Theatre is dominated by liberals; there are conservatives here and there, but outside of David Mamet, few of them are running theatre companies.

  15. Artymorty Avatar

    @guest

    I think it’s reasonable to disassociate with people whose actions and/or stated beliefs are antithetical to one’s political principles, though, especially if you’re trying to signal that strongly-held principles are what guide your politics. Sometimes it’s a very first-order thinking thing to do.

    (I’m talking Posey Parker here. It’s not just that she’s “associated” with the far right, it’s that she’s said and done things that clash egregiously with liberal principles, and so in my books she’s a mixed bag: in some ways an asset to the “cause”; in others a big liability.)

    As much as social triangulation is an inferior way of truth-finding than actual applied open-minded thought (AOT), it still has its uses, especially in the realm of persuasion. The thing is, if everyone on the left is caught up in social triangulation, it kinda becomes necessary to use some social triangulation of your own in order to appeal to them. That’s the playing field we’ve landed on. So there’s good reason to keep a safe distance from the far-right gender-criticals, or at least to very overtly and clearly reaffirm one’s disagreements with them — if persuading the left is your objective.

  16. Artymorty Avatar

    @Dave Ricks

    That’s so interesting. You’ve shown me my own idea from another angle, and I really like it. That scene is such a vivid little illustration of the distinction. Nice!

  17. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    When trying to figure out “what changed?” don’t forget the rise of Critical Theory. Generations of university students have been taught to mistrust all epistemologies, including those “anchored to material reality.” They are instead told that all “narratives” are equal — but of course some are more equal than others. Human society boils down to a struggle for power over who controls the dominant narrative, and therefore it’s necessary to support the narrative of any group perceived as “marginalized,” even if said narrative is batshit.

    (Another misstep imo was a shift from a focus on individual rights to group-based thinking. But I suppose that tension has always existed. Maybe it’s the difference between liberalism and leftism. I don’t know; this is my unschooled, piecemeal understanding of the history of these ideas.)

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