Decrease is a symptom of the thing decreased

How to create a market:

Market creation. First they say that gender dysphoria isn’t a mental health condition and then they say that mental health conditions and neuro-diversity are signs of being transgender. Then they teach gender ideology in schools and target ads to children on Youtube.

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So gender dysphoria “may present” as depression, anxiety, doing badly in school, family quarrels, frustration, anger, not dating, feeling guilty or lonely or like a loser, sadness, anhedonia, diagnosis of borderline personality disorder or autism among other items, and feelings of decreased gender dysphoria.

So, basically, everything.

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23 responses to “Decrease is a symptom of the thing decreased”

  1. Sastra Avatar

    I suspect that last one is a misprint for “increased” gender dysphoria. Someone screwed up the slide.

    This could be a list of the Signs of Depression. It also reminds me a bit of those pseudoscientific “could you be repressing memories of child abuse?” tests several decades ago. It’s left off “weight gain,” though.

  2. Colin Day Avatar

    Why is there a left quote mark/grave accent in “depersonal`ization”?

  3. Ben Avatar

    “Are you experiencing little or no gender dysphoria? You might have gender dysphoria. Talk with your doctor today.”

  4. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Colin Day – Because that’s the woke way to write “depersonalization,” just as it’s a grave solecism to say “transwomen” instead of “trans women.” Decent people experience depersonali’zation; only TERFs think it’s “depersonalization.”

  5. Papito Avatar

    Fascinating how backwards this is. You could just about fix the slide by changing its title:

    Possible Root Causes of Gender Dysphoria Symptoms

  6. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    Looks like they forgot autism… way to not be inclusive.

  7. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    BKiSA, right column, fifth from bottom. They missed Asperger’s, though.

  8. Papito Avatar

    Asperger’s isn’t in the DSM anymore, Acolyte. It’s either autism or semantic pragmatic disorder now.

  9. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Semantic pragmatic disorder is now called social communication disorder. It’s classed as part of the Asperger spectrum than replacing it as a term.

  10. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    Oops… Guess I was subconsciously looking for Asperger’s…

    They’ve invalidated my existence and violenced me!!!!

  11. Lady Mondegreen Avatar
    Lady Mondegreen

    Sastra

    I suspect that last one is a misprint for “increased” gender dysphoria. Someone screwed up the slide.

    Nope. I remember when this story came out. IIRC the slide was from a presentation by the Los Angeles Gender Center, whose head is Aydin Olson-Kennedy, partner of Johanna Olson-Kennedy of Children’s Hospital, Los Angeles–she who has referred 13 year-olds for double mastectomies and said “if they want breasts later, they can go buy them.”

    The point was that if a kid’s gender dysphoria decreased, or they expressed uncertainty, well that could also be a symptom of gender dysphoria.

  12. Artymorty Avatar

    Did you see today’s article in the New Yorker by Masha Gessen about trans rigts and the Supreme Court?

    I greatly admire her writing about Russian politics and gay rights, but I think she’s very wrong about bathrooms and trans rights.

    I became a journalist at a time when one was not supposed to cover issues that concerned one personally. The (very few) black reporters working in the mainstream media were not assigned to write about the civil-rights movement. Women were not assigned to stories on feminism. The handful of openly gay reporters were not allowed to write about gay-and-lesbian rights or the aids epidemic. The underlying logic of this approach was that reasonable people could disagree on issues that people with a stake in the outcome would be unable to cover in a fair and balanced manner.

    And yet she’s doing exactly that — not covering this issue in a fair and balanced manner.

    She identifies as non-binary (like so many butch lesbians do these days), so she sees the whole debate in terms of her ability to feel comfortable using a men’s washroom despite her having been “assigned” (ugh) female at birth.

    For all her defense of trans people’s right to use the washroom of their choice, she didnt even try to define who exactly counts as a genuine trans person, how gender non-conforming a man has to be in order to be permitted to use a women’s washroom, or what mechanism we could use in practice and in law to distinguish men from transwomen, since trans is not the same as gender-non-conforming: trans is just a feeling and not something you can see, and many men who claim the label aren’t all that gender non-conforming at all.

    Masha Gessen may look and dress in a way that’s perceived as more male than female, and Laverne Cox may look for all intents and purposes like a biological female, but following right behind her through the door to the women’s loo are six hulking middle-aged men with an erotic fetish for penetrating into women’s private spaces.

  13. Skeletor Avatar

    See, gender dysphoria isn’t a mental health condition—it’s all the mental health conditions.

  14. Sackbut Avatar

    Re #12

    I had not seen that article; wow, what a mess.

    I enjoyed this article by Jo Bartosch at Uncommon Ground; an unabashedly feminist perspective. Very well done.

    http://uncommongroundmedia.com/how-a-skirt-in-a-funeral-home-in-detroit-threatens-civil-rights/

  15. Holms Avatar

    “Are you a normal person experiencing the usual ups and downs of being human? You might have gender dysphoria!”

    Jesus christ, especially grief.

    “Did your grandmother die recently? You might have gender dysphoria!”

  16. Papito Avatar

    Acolyte, social communication disorder (aka semantic pragmatic disorder, social (pragmatic) communication disorder, and also Pragmatic Language Disorder) and autism spectrum disorder are exclusive in the DSM-V.

    Aspergers was eliminated as a stand-alone diagnosis, and is now incorporated into the same diagnosis as autism spectrum disorder. Pervasive developmental disorder – not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS) and autistic disorder were also eliminated as diagnoses, all three replaced by autism spectrum disorder. Autism spectrum disorder and Social (pragmatic) communication disorder are mutually exclusive diagnoses: if you have ASD, you cannot also be diagnosed with SCD. ASD must be ruled out before an SCD diagnosis can be given.

    Which is to say, one can no longer be diagnosed with Asperger’s at all, and one cannot be diagnosed with both Asperger’s or ASD as well as SCD. Either ASD or SCD. The main difference is restricted interests and repetitive behavior being present in ASD and absent in SCD.

    https://jneurodevdisorders.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1866-1955-6-41

    The over-representation of autistic individuals amongst those falling for the transgender cult has been noted. I wonder if those with SCD are also over-represented.

  17. Artymorty Avatar

    #14 Sackbut,

    Thanks for the link; that’s a good article. (I’m not really familiar with that website, Uncommon Ground, but I was heartened to see Leo Igwe has a recent piece up over there.)

    Yeah, the New Yorker piece is quite a mess, and I’m quite unhappy with Masha Gessen’s disingenuousness.

    Like this:

    The arguments in these cases are predicated entirely on the assumption that sex is a socially and biologically meaningful category. Even the most progressive members of the Court demanded reassurance that a binary view of sex and gender would not be challenged.

    Good grief, the New Yorker doesn’t believe that sex is binary? Get the hell outta here. Or this:

    Finally, Cole, who had spent the bulk of his allotted time litigating an issue that wasn’t relevant to his case, said something that had not been acknowledged by anyone present: a decision in favor of Stephens would not conjure transgender people into existence, because they exist already. “Recognizing that transgender people have a right to exist in the workplace and not be turned away because of who they are does not end dress codes or restrooms,” Cole said.

    Bullshit. This case is about changing the definition of “woman” from biological fact to self-declaration. And Gessen knows it. She just doesn’t care. Because she doesn’t seem to believe men in general can be a danger to women, and that there are, in actual fact, many circumstances in which one’s sex is a “meaningful category.”

    We were there to hear a progressive Justice casually mention how uncomfortable our presence made women in their restrooms. I have no doubt that Sotomayor said this without malice—and without thinking that actual trans people were hearing her.

    Our presence; actual trans people. Who is “us”? Which males are “actual” trans people again? She herself doesn’t even identify as trans; she’s just a very masculine-presenting woman who seems to identify only as “not a man.” Doesn’t she see that the “trans” label has no restrictions on who can use it? And unlike other minority labels — gay, Jewish, disabled — the “trans” label comes with a particularly appealing set of benefits to potential abusers: it can give predatory males access to women and children.

    You wouldn’t even make your Wi-Fi password public; why the hell do you think it’s fine to hand over the keys to the women’s bathroom/locker room/communal shower/summer camp cabin/crisis shelter to anyone who wants them?

  18. Artymorty Avatar

    (Apologies for derailing the thread; I would have posted this in the Miscellany place but I can’t find it!)

  19. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Here’s the Miscellany Room:

    http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2019/miscellany-room-4/

    But I don’t consider the thread derailed.

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  21. Papito Avatar

    I am struck by how inescapably misogynistic the transgender project is. Wanting to define “women” as not really existing, or as being a club anybody can join by wishing to, isn’t a post-equality project. It’s a furtherance of inequality.

    People become trans only insofar as they can’t accept the co-existence of femininity with masculinity in themselves. Whether male or female, we all have aspects that are more feminine and aspects that are more masculine. Refusing to accept this complexity of our human nature is regressive, and predicated on sexism that demeans the feminine. Transgenderism then becomes a project that seeks to destroy the category of women, to deny women a place in this world.

    Men: You women should stay in your place.

    Women: We have a nice place now. Women only!

    Men: You have to let me in that place. I’m a woman too.

    Women: No you’re not. You’re a man.

    Men: TERF! Women don’t really exist.

  22. John the Drunkard Avatar
    John the Drunkard

    The list is amazingly similar to the self-diagnostic checklists for ‘repressed memories’ of Satanic abuse that were circulating back in the 80s.

    In essence, being a carbon-based life form was considered a symptom of Ritual Abuse.

  23. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Yes, the “suppressed memories” / Satanic abuse thing has lots of echoes with the trans bullshit.