A History of Winning

Trump is all worked up about the sacrilegious idea that we can rename military bases that were named after Confederate military “heroes.”

The Great American Heritage of slavery and official, deliberate, detailed racial persecution and oppression – I think we can rename things as a way to reject that heritage. I think it’s more than slightly disgusting that Donald Trump wants us to cling to that heritage.

Aaron Blake at the Post:

In tweets early Wednesday afternoon, Trump argued against changing the names of bases like Fort Bragg, Fort Hood and Fort Benning — all of which are named after Confederate generals. In doing so, though, he referenced the United States’s history of winning.

“These Monumental and very Powerful Bases have become part of a Great American Heritage, and a history of Winning, Victory, and Freedom,” Trump said, adding, “Therefore, my Administration will not even consider the renaming of these Magnificent and Fabled Military Installations.”

Yehbut Bragg, Hood and Benning were all Confederate generals, and they…lost. So not so much part of a history of Winning then!

Cities and states across the country in recent years have removed Confederate statues, for instance, as well as taken Confederate names off of schools, streets, parks and holidays. NASCAR on Wednesday afternoon announced it would ban Confederate flags at its events.

NASCAR did??? Stone the crows.

If NASCAR can, surely Trump can.

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21 responses to “A History of Winning”

  1. Rob Avatar

    I understand these bases were renamed over the WW1 to WW2 period, so not actually that long a history. Also Bragg? I understand he had one of the loosingist track records of any General ever – on top of the fact he fought for the loosing side.

    As one twitter wag said – let them fly Confederate flags, as long as it’s the last flag they flew [picture of white flag].

  2. twiliter Avatar

    Fabled? Like Lilliput or Valhalla? Elysian Fields? What.

  3. Blood Knight in Sour Armor Avatar
    Blood Knight in Sour Armor

    How about Sherman, Grant, and Mead? Or Patton who he’s so fond of?

  4. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    How many Union soldiers were monumentally and very powerfully killed by Generals Benning, Bragg, Hood, etc.?

    I wonder how many, if any, American military installations have been renamed for other reasons over the years?

    Also, why does this pop into my head?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo0X77OBJUg

    (They Might Be Giants cover of Istanbul {not Constantinople} )

  5. iknklast Avatar

    So he thinks it’s great to name military bases after TRAITORS? And LOSERS? Wow. Who would have thought?

  6. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    NASCAR on Wednesday afternoon announced it would ban Confederate flags at its events.

    .

    NASCAR?!!! HOLY CRAP! How long before they back down, or are forced to back down by groups of freedom-lovin’ gun-totin’ good ol’ boys?

    So he thinks it’s great to name military bases after TRAITORS? And LOSERS? Wow. Who would have thought?

    Remember? Fine people on both sides.

  7. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    As far as I know, one of the most successful, winningest generals of the Revolutionary War doesn’t have a fort named after him. Surely there should be a Fort Benedict Arnold somewhere in the US.

  8. Omar Avatar

    … history of Winning, Victory, and Freedom. The United States of America trained and deployed our HEROES on these Hallowed Grounds, and won two World Wars. Therefore, my Administration will not even consider the renaming of these Magnificent and Fabled Military Installations..

    Oh, I dunno. Captain Bonespurs won office by promising the citizenry from sea to shining sea that he would make their nation, them, himself, and everyone on down to the humblest dogcatcher in the scrawniest town around “great again.”

    So what made the ‘ungreat’? Only one word needed: Vietnam.

    So then how about Fort Ho Chi Minh? Could certainly do a lot worse.

  9. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    Trump is planning to start up his fascist rallies again. The next one will be June 19th–Juneteenth–in Tulsa. For those of you unaware of the details of race relations in the US, Juneteenth is a holiday among Black Americans in which they celebrate the end of slavery. And Tulsa was the site of one of the worst racial massacres in the US 99 years ago.

    This isn’t a dogwhistle, it’s a fucking foghorn.

  10. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Maybe* Trump just doesn’t have a grasp on American history. As far as he knows, the Civil War was won by America and those generals were American generals, therefore they’re American heroes. Exactly who he thinks America fought in the Civil War is anybody’s guess.

    * or maybe he’s just a racist shit who’s heroes were all racist shits.

  11. Steven Avatar

    It’s not just the Confederacy that lost; those particular generals lost. Krugman at https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1270795211623538693

    Not, obviously, the important thing, but as a Civil War nerd it seems odd to say that Braxton Bragg, spectacularly defeated at Chattanooga, and John Bell Hood, loser at Atlanta, Franklin and Nashville, embody a history of Winning and Victory.

  12. Bruce Coppola Avatar
    Bruce Coppola

    What a Maroon: that was a good one.

  13. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    AoS, could be that he’s been reading Heather Cox Richardson’s latest, “How the South Won the Civil War”.

    (Just kidding; I know that asking Trump to read is like asking a koala to fly; he may make the attempt, but he won’t last long. (But also putting in a plug for HCR’s book.))

  14. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    What a Maroon, I’ll look out for that book. I’ll guess, though, that it’s about how the South still has a disproportionately large influence over national politics, just as they did prior to the Civil War.

  15. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    AoS,

    It goes further than just that. The key is in her subtitle: “Oligarchy, Democracy, and the Continuing Fight for the Soul of America”. Her thesis is that the basic elements* of the system that the South was fighting were extended after the war to the West and then the rest of the country, and that the oligarchy has managed to undo any attempts at a more democratic system. (I’m not doing her justice, though; the book is an easy read but well worth it.)

    *Minus outright slavery, of course.

  16. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    My go-to for the filthy history of the aftermath of slavery is Eric Foner’s history of Reconstruction.

  17. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Thanks, WaM, it’s on my to-do list. Regarding the slavery: don’t they call it ‘the penal system’ these days?

  18. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Aaagh! Stop recommending books. I’m old and time is finite.

  19. What a Maroon Avatar
    What a Maroon

    Ophelia,

    Thanks for the recommendation.

    AoS,

    Yep, that’s one element. There’s also the myth of the cowboy as a self-made, freedom-loving (white; cowboys are almost never depicted as black or Latino, even though a large percentage of them were) man that filled the cinema and the airwaves, and that Reagan rode to the White House.

  20. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    Acolyte, sorry, but that one is really indispensable. Not my fault!

  21. iknklast Avatar

    I’m sort of (half-heartedly) with AoS. I think my answer is that I need to retire as soon as possible so I can get all my reading done (and so I can still have some me left to enjoy retirement; the COVID shut-down turned out to be a health initiative for me. My mental health spiral downward has plateaued, thanks to not being in the presence of constant negative messaging, even though I am doing the same work!).