So now I’m exploring further the dimness and hostility to women of this Craig Murray fella and it’s astonishing. He comes across as weirdly clueless, even childish. He’s a former ambassador? To where, his local park?
Like that, for instance. It’s childishly stupid. (No offense to children intended. We’re all stupid as children, because of being children.) Even if all the women at that lunch have expensive phones, that doesn’t make it ok to abuse them on social media. He seems to be saying that women who have expensive phones should be abused on social media, because they deserve it.
There again – he sounds like an angry teenager. Puddle of piss yourself ya big bully.
The hell he has. See above.
Oh, well then. He doesn’t like these two women to be lionised therefore it’s fine for him to join the chorus hurling abuse at them. What is he, six? Even Owen Jones isn’t this childish, and Owen Jones isn’t a former ambassador. (To his local Tesco was it?)
What a complete goon. Ambassador to his favorite pub it must have been.
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Sophomoric stuff, there, Craig my boy. What these women experience isn’t injustice, because others experience more injustice?
Dear Muslima?
Ambassador to Uzbekistan, in fact, and his record there wasn’t at all bad. However, I agree with your assessment of his anti-TERF tweets. I’m reminded of Richard Dawkins’s infamous Dear Muslima letter, which effectively argued that western white women should put up with abuse and sexual aggression because others in the world have it worse. Having been an admirer of Richard Dawkins for many years I went off him in a big way at that time. As far as I know he has never disavowed the Dear Muslima letter.
I see that maddog1129 got there before me!
I can agree with this, but not in the direction he is meaning.
As for cell phones, most of my students are living below the poverty level. They have cell phones, often with unlimited minutes. Having an expensive (or any) cell phone is not an indication of rich.
Why didn’t he just go straight to calling them Karens? I suppose at least that shows some restraint.
Athel, yes, once I posted this fume I looked him up (could have done that first but wanted to fume without pesky background information), he got in trouble with his superiors for drawing attention to rights abuses in Uzbekistan, and refused to shut up about it despite pressure. Impressive. How pathetic it is that even so he just can’t see women as having rights just like real people.
He was ambassador to there for a couple of years – was withdrawn because of the refusal to shut up.
The lunch was only “swanky” due to the very high quality of women who attended. Pasta and wine is pretty ordinary otherwise. :D
Yes, what really stinks of privilege here is holding the belief that some person or persons should be okay with abuse or should suffer because of their material position in life. This Craig Murray fellow is awfully cavalier about tossing around judgements of people who are subjects of abuse that he never will or can be. He’s basically saying “suck it up, buttercup” from his safe little armchair.
So you know for a fact that they have suffered none of those things? How? Why is the belief they have “ludicrous”? For women in general, and these ones in particular, these events are things are as common as dirt. We have eyes, you know. All have been publicly threatened and abused. All have been publicly accused (by “your” side) of wishing harm and death on trans identified people. All have had their reasonable, compassionate positions twisted, or ignored altogether in the course of these accusations. At least some of them have been victims of actual, physical assault. Sounds a lot like pain, hatred and injustice to me. If you cannot see that, then you are a deeply broken human.
Well, given the above, no “extrapolation” is required. The misogyny is right there. You’re soaking in it. Now you’re displaying it in public. The least you could do would be to own it. I could tell you to “educate yourself,” but you may be too far gone for that. You seem to be under the impression that you already know everything you need to know. Again, see above re: “deeply broken.”
Yeah, welcome to their world. I’ll bet you’re not getting a fraction of the abuse that the women you’re demonizing (nastily, and personally, I might add) have received. And if you’re like so many other trans activists, “personal nastiness” is probably better described as “criticism.” How many wishes that you die in a grease fire have you received? How many offers to choke you with dicks, or kill you in other imaginative ways? Has anybody written AN ENTIRE FUCKING NOVEL in which people holding your position are gleefully killed as the central theme and entertainmet of the story being told? Or did someone tweet photos of ribbons at you? Get in line behind David Paisley. Maybe he’s hiding out with your hero Assange by now.
No, you really haven’t. Not if you can come out with shit like you did. Tell me again, who said this?
Failure to submit and surrender is transphobia. Nothing but silence and self-imposed isolation will satisfy trans activists like you. Women sharing their experiences and defending their sex-based rights is ALWAYS going to be portrayed as being first, foremost, and ever only “anti-trans.” And never should they have fun doing it.
Indeed. It is widely known that the hallmark and touchstone of any movement that is on the side of reason is the bullying promulgation of dogma that runs counter to material reality, followed by a chaser of “NO DEBATE!”
Athel @3
He did disavow the misogynist pile-ons women got in response to their criticisms, though. Right here on Butterflies and Wheels, thanks to Ophelia.
(Eventually.)
Oh yes, so he did. The joint letter.
Then the next day he wrote a very…erm…contentious post on his blog. Which still makes me laugh.
If the old ferrero rocher adverts are anything to go by, Craig Murray has been living a swankier lifestyle than any of these women (except for JK Rowling, what with the movie premieres).
Craig Murray is on the dark side of Scottish nationalist politics. He’s an ally of the former First Minister Alex Salmond, and after Salmond’s trial for sexual assault, wrote blogs which exposed the names of the women involved. This gave him eight months in prison for contempt of court (a bit steep, I thought).
https://rsf.org/en/news/uk-blogger-craig-murray-jailed-eight-months-over-jigsaw-identification
This dark side overlaps with the John Pilger/Assange supporting, anti-Western stance on politics. So the Skripal poisonings were false flags by MI6 or whoever, and Putin’s attacking Ukraine is all NATO’s fault.
His grievance against the British establishment over his time as ambassador to Uzbekistan are quite justified. I suppose that did go some way to push him to the dark side.
Wo.