There’s no difference between anything and anything

Wait what? Who is demonizing whom?

https://twitter.com/MhairiHunter/status/1704741943966605532

It’s not “demonizing” anyone to say that men can’t be women, or to say that pretending men can be women is very bad for women’s rights.

Meanwhile…

https://twitter.com/MujerGuerrera78/status/1705135116899557835

Comments

8 responses to “There’s no difference between anything and anything”

  1. maddog1129 Avatar

    I literally could not imagine such an ad. Who thinks of such horrifying stuff? I recoiled in revulsion, involuntarily.

  2. Peter N Avatar

    So I read the article linked in that Tweet (or X or whatever they call them these days), which turns out be a story about a change in public opinion about the transgendered. No real surprise, the word “demonize” doesn’t actually appear.

    Looking at how attitudes have changed in the past few years since 2019, the survey found that the proportion of people describing themselves as “a little prejudiced” against people who are transgender rose from 13.7% to 27.5% in 2022, while those saying they were “very prejudiced” rose from 2.3% in 2019 to 6.4% last year.

    If only they had asked a followup question about why people’s attitudes have changed!

    My question for the B&W community is, how “prejudiced” are we? I don’t feel prejudiced against the transgendered per se, any more than against anorexics or people who think they’re Napoleon or any other such minority. I actually have some sympathy for them, and for anyone who is suffering. That said, people who claim to be Inuit to get government benefits to which they are not entitled, people who cheat at sports, violent sex male offenders who demand to be incarcerated with women — these are of course farther down my list. But menwhosaytheythinkthey’ewomen and mind their own business — I know they can’t stand it, but I for one just don’t much care about them one way or the other.

    I know that makes me a genocidal maniac by some people’s definition — well, I don’t care about them, either.

  3. Brian M Avatar

    Peter N: For me, I am just simply bothered by the fervent demand that we believe…loudly…in nonsense. It’s the same level and type of offense I feel when I see a loud, black smoke spewing lifted pickup truck sporting multiple Trump flags and brushing me on my bicycle for no reason. Irrationality is offensive.

    Throw in the activist behavior…

    Am I rude to trans people I know? not really. Most are quiet about it. It’s more the “ allies” I argue vocally with.

  4. Ophelia Benson Avatar

    I suppose it’s about like the way I think [or feel] about vocal religious believers. I don’t want to harm them or take their rights away, but I think their belief systems are bad and harmful.

  5. Your Name's not Bruce? Avatar
    Your Name’s not Bruce?

    My question for the B&W community is, how “prejudiced” are we?

    I am certainly more wary and less trusting of TiMs than I was when, in my blithe ignorance, I was happy to accept the idea that “transwomen are women.” Now, any man dressed as a woman I regard with suspicion, because they’re trying to pass themselves off as someone they’re not. It’s misrepresentation. I’m always wondering: to what end? What’s he up to? What part am I about to play in this guy’s “gender journey?” It’s like dealing with a counterfeiter or a con man, but instead of trying to pass a bogus bill or get me to invest in some Ponzi scheme, this person is trying to pass a fake identity, and have me accept him as something he’s not; a woman. Am I pre-judging? Yes. I can live with that.

    Well done everyone involved in demonising trans people – and I include the media in that. You should be ashamed of yourselves. And if you think this is any different to seeing an increase in racism or homophobia following a hate campaign – it isn’t.

    How can any movement but draw unfavourable attention to itself by attempting to hide the weakness and incoherence of its cause by insisting on “NO DEBATE!”, and by the constant repetition of lies like “TWAW!” and “There’s no conflict between trans rights and women’s rights.” What better way to advertise that you’ve got something to hide, than by harassing those asking even the mildest of questions or expressing the slightest doubts? If people are more supportive of your campaign when they know less about it, and less supportive once they learn more, the problem might not be those people who’ve changed their minds, but the “product” you’re trying to sell them.

  6. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    I will happily admit to a deep and abiding prejudice towards anybody who tries to force a belief onto me.

  7. Catwhisperer Avatar

    Christ, has anyone tried reporting that sticker as a hate crime?

  8. Acolyte of Sagan Avatar
    Acolyte of Sagan

    Catwhisperer; I wondered about that, too, but the way that things are going there’s every chance that reporting anything that ‘communninny’ does as a hate crime may itself be regarded as a hate crime.