When Artemis

I’m so tired of seeing men cry crocodile tears over men who pretend to be women in order to invade women’s spaces in order to watch them take showers. SO TIRED of it.

https://twitter.com/thewanreport/status/1713182969001624025

Wtf else would he be?

Even if you think he is in genuine psychic anguish about having a male body, it still doesn’t follow that he gets to move in with women and ogle them when they’re naked. His anguish does not trump their right to get naked away from men.

Why is The Washington Post peddling this misogynistic bullshit?

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12 responses to “When Artemis”

  1. J.A. Avatar

    In a related story, here’s a real doozy:

    Wyoming sorority sisters’ lawsuit to block transgender member dismissed by judge: “The court will not define a ‘woman’ today”

    A judge has dismissed a lawsuit contesting a transgender woman’s admission into a sorority at the University of Wyoming, ruling that he could not override how the private, voluntary organization defined a woman and order that she not belong.

    In the lawsuit, six members of the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority chapter challenged Artemis Langford’s admission by casting doubt on whether sorority rules allowed a transgender woman. Wyoming U.S. District Court Judge Alan Johnson, in his ruling, found that sorority bylaws don’t define who’s a woman.

    The case at Wyoming’s only four-year public university drew widespread attention as transgender people fight for more acceptance in schools, athletics, workplaces and elsewhere, while others push back.

    A federal court cannot interfere with the sorority chapter’s freedom of association by ruling against its vote to induct the transgender woman last year, Johnson ruled Friday.

    With no definition of a woman in sorority bylaws, Johnson ruled that he could not impose the six sisters’ definition of a woman in place of the sorority’s more expansive definition provided in court.

    One wonders why the judge couldn’t have consulted a dictionary, as it’s painfully obvious that a sorority is intended to be a female-only association and therefore said bylaws don’t need to define what a woman is. (At least not until recently.) Otherwise, how did men know why they couldn’t join a sorority for as long as sororities have existed? I hope the appeal takes the time to roast this ruling to a crisp. Yes, I know that we’re supposed to be pretending that males are females as a legal fiction but bodies are a biological fact that can’t be denied.

  2. Piglet Avatar

    Why is The Washington Post peddling this misogynistic bullshit?

    I developed a theory when the Aimee Challenor story broke – a lot of the pandering to these people comes from misplaced guilt and overcompensation. They find Artemis viscerally repulsive as a greasy, creepy, maladjusted man, but they know they’re supposed to #BeKind to trans people. So they make concessions and give him stuff in order to prove they’re not evil transphobes.

  3. J.A. Avatar

    Re: pandering, having followed Twitter’s dialogues (which have been skewed by Twitter’s moderation policies that were pro-trans) about transgender issues, IMO main-stream journalism has been very much affected by it. Look at how those like Jesse Singal have been treated for being respectfully skeptical about some of the claims of trans ideology. Journalists are genuinely afraid of getting on the wrong side and getting cancelled. Better to “be kind” and not risk retaliation.

  4. Piglet Avatar

    J.A.: to me, it’s become even more noticeable since the recent Israel/Palestine escalation. That’s always supposed to be one of those third-rail topics, but I’ve seen a pretty wide spectrum of opinions from journalists.

  5. Nullius in Verba Avatar
    Nullius in Verba

    Piglet:

    … a lot of the pandering to these people comes from misplaced guilt and overcompensation. They find Artemis viscerally repulsive as a greasy, creepy, maladjusted man, but they know they’re supposed to #BeKind to trans people. So they make concessions and give him stuff in order to prove they’re not evil transphobes.

    I would agree that this is true for most people, because most people do know that these are men, and most people do have some modicum of decency. It’s the very fact that they feel repulsed or disgusted that fuels their fervent protestations to the contrary. Catholicism has long marked a similar phenomenon among people who display extreme zeal, called scrupulosity.

  6. Sackbut Avatar

    It bothers me to feel like this, but: I don’t believe the story about death threats without actual evidence. Most stories about death threats are believable, but this guy has lied so much, I question even this part of his story.

  7. Piglet Avatar

    Sackbut: I would want confirmation on the death threats, but it seems to be a matter of public record that a local unhinged Christian fundamentalist stalked Artemis on campus. Frankly the pair of them deserve each other.

  8. NightCrow Avatar

    Artemis is a vengeful goddess. The excellent Greek mythology site at theoi.com has summaries of more than thirty separate stories of her vengeance on people who annoyed her.

    She didn’t like Peeping Toms:

    AKTAION (Actaeon) A young prince and hunter of Thebes in Boiotia (central Greece) who incurred the wrath of Artemis by spying upon her as she bathed (though some say he merely came across he by accident, but nevertheless failed to avert his gaze). She transformed him into a stag and then incited his hounds to tear him apart in a mad frenzy.

  9. Eava Avatar

    J.A., the judge could have consulted a dictionary, but how to define “woman” wasn’t the issue. The sorority in its guidelines for membership included “individuals who identify as women” as eligible for membership. As a private organization, the Court said they have the right to set their own membership criteria, and if they want to include men who identify as women, it isn’t the Court’s place to tell them they can’t.

  10. James Garnett Avatar
    James Garnett

    In related news, the Wapo disabled comments on the story from the get-go.

  11. iknklast Avatar

    Eava, for a long time, courts have been saying who can and can’t be excluded. The reality is that they will fall back on “private” when it suits them, either because they agree with the party or because they don’t want to make the decision for whatever reason. They do that a lot on religion, too, hence the reason religions are allowed to discriminate in nearly every way now.

  12. J.A. Avatar

    iknklast, if this was a black sorority I can’t imagine the judge washing his hands if they hadn’t defined “black”. If the bylaws said they would admit those “identifying as black”, well then they have to accept anyone who identifies as black, right? Right.

    I mean, self-ID has its limits.