Not right now, children
Yet another iteration of the “now right after a mass shooting is not the time to talk about gun control” bromide – the one that makes absolutely no sense. Why isn’t right after yet another mass shooting very much the time to talk about gun control? It’s like saying “now right after a horrific multi-car crash caused by a driver texting is not the time to talk about not texting while driving.” Yes it is, it’s exactly the time to talk about it, when the dire consequences are right on the front page.
This one of course is the strikingly out of her depth Huckabee Junior.
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Monday repeatedly deflected reporters’ questions about gun control, saying “there will certainly be a time for that policy discussion to take place, but that’s not the place that we’re in at this moment.”
Why? Because we should wait until people have become numb and desensitized again? So that nothing will go on being done? Because there sure as hell isn’t any other sensible reason for that glib deflection.
During the same media briefing, however, Sanders weighed in on the exact “policy discussion” that she said the White House would not engage in on “a day of mourning.”
“I think one of the things that we don’t want to do is try to create laws that won’t create — or stop these types of things from happening,” Sanders said. “I think if you look to Chicago, where you had over 4,000 victims of gun-related crimes last year, they have the strictest gun laws in the country. That certainly hasn’t helped there. So, I think we have to, when that time comes for those conversations to take place, then I think we have to look at things that may actually have a real impact.”
This is the White House not talking about gun control.
It’s talking about not-gun control – which is a whole other thing.
“Again, I think before we start trying to talk about the preventions of what took place last night we need to know more facts,” Sanders continued. “And right now, we’re simply not at that point. It’s very easy for Mrs. Clinton to criticize and to come out, but I think we need to remember the only person with blood on their hands is that of the shooter.”
Mm. Ok – so we should let children run around with sharp knives on the grounds that if anyone gets cut it will be only the knife-holder with bloody hands? So then we shouldn’t have traffic lights, because if any crashes happen it’s only the drivers who are at fault. Liberty for all! Very short life, but lashings of liberty.
http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-prevent-says-only-nation-where-regularly-ha-57086
We have plenty of facts:
1) Dude had a shit ton of rifles and was apparently at the very least “bump-firing” some of them. He had enough rifles that he was rotating them out to let the barrels cool between firing sequences. Large capacity magazines (starting at 30 rounds) made this even more effective.
2) He had a stable firing position with open fields of fire and a massively target rich environment. There was no cover, no where to hide.
3) “Good guys with guns” would’ve been utterly ineffective due to the range at which the combat engagement would’ve taken place let alone trying to fire at an unknown shooter in the dark and in an elevated firing position.
4) There weren’t too many ways to prevent these deaths; either you weren’t at the concert/festival or the shooter wouldn’t have had the guns to begin with.
Blood Knight:
Just wait. The NRA will probably blame the height of the hotel.
And from what I understand there is actually legislation on the cards at the moment to make silencers and armour piercing ammunition easier to get. Fuck this shit. It’s a pathology.
There’s a mass shooting every day in this country. If we can’t talk about gun control in the aftermath of a mass shooting, we’re shit out of luck.
Yes, I’m pretty sure that is actually the reason.
Am I misreading this? They don’t want to create laws to STOP these types of things.
1. Why the fuck not?
2. These types of things? Really? She referred to the mass murder of innocent people as a type of thing?
They care more about respecting a fucking bit of cloth than the people that bit of cloth is supposed to represent. Or maybe the dead and injured don’t matter because they weren’t massacred in defence of the good old Yoo Ess of Ay.
It was another white American man killing people so there will be reasons, excuses and probably thesis dissertations on how he could have had the same number of knives and killed MORE people.
Fuck me but America is a brain dead culture.
Y’all really love your guns don’t you?
4) There weren’t too many ways to prevent these deaths; either you weren’t at the concert/festival or the shooter wouldn’t have had the guns to begin with
Or now only indoor events where elevated snipering is minimized.
Acolyte, they don’t really want to stop these things because the Republicans run their campaigns based on fear. They stoke fear, they pander to fear, they do everything they can to make everyone afraid, and point out that they are the only ones that can fix it, because (1) they are tough, and (2) they won’t take your guns away.
Stopping “these types of things” would be disastrous for the Republican party (but not for the country).
If I was living in America, I would definitely own at least one handgun and one rifle.And also probably one bazooka.
I wouild get around town in a half-track, when not flying across the countryside in my helicopter gunship.
And I would preach the NRA line: ‘guns don’t kill people. People kill people.’
No. Make that ‘people with guns kill people’.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-03/las-vegas-shooting-no-end-to-gun-massacres/9010056
Not talking about gun control, or asking people not to to talk about it out of “respect” so as not to “politicize” this horrific attack, politicizes this horrific attack, but in the direction of somnambulance rather than action. The prevention of arguments against change are arguments for the status quo
But where explosions are maximised.
iknklast, I knew that Rebublicans as a breed are generally heartless and ruthless, but they usually attempt to make some of the right noises following a tragedy whilst skirting the real issue. I never thought I’d see the day that a US President’s spokesperson would openly state that they didn’t want to prevent gun deaths, and didn’t want to make gun laws that wouldn’t create more shootings. That is way past brazen; it’s a stone cold ‘Fuck You’ to the entire country.
They couldn’t even resist an unnecessary dig at Hillary Clinton. No black or brown people to blame for this one, huh?
And yet, the Trump administration has a bit less restraint “politicizing” any Muslim being threatening with a knife. No time to calm down, no sorrowful moments of silence for victims, no hesitation to leap to ill-considered legislation….
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I don’t think Sanders is trying to say she doesn’t want to prevent gun deaths. She changes her sentence construction in midstream – always a bad idea. It should read
“I think one of the things that we don’t want to do is try to create laws that won’t
create — orstop these types of things from happening,”She isn’t trying to say it, she is saying it. I don’t think think that official government spokespeople should get to say ‘ that thing you all clearly heard me say isn’t what I said’, and neither should their words be treated like the Bible, ambiguous and open to interpretation.
One has the right to expect that a person employed to speak on behalf of the government be educated enough to be coherent.
I was thinking just a couple of days ago when hearing her say something what a very odd choice she is for that job – she doesn’t articulate well and she comes across as really extremely thick.
Ophelia @ 21, yeah true, but she is the daughter of one of Trump’s current (well, for now) supporters and she needed a job. A bit of favouritism and feeding at the public trough never hurt did it?
#noswamptodrainhere #noonebetterqualifiedwouldtakethejob
“#noonebetterqualifiedwouldtakethejob”
I just fell in love with you, Rob. x
AoS, aww stop it, I’m blushing!